Delete Clemency and Vercure

[Ammokkx]

A red mage without the ability to heal is just a black mage. Red mage, traditionally, is the jack-of-all-mages.

Paladins throughout the franchise have been able to cast cure, because that's a divine skill. Removing the holyness from them makes them warriors.

Class identity and consistency is important. The fantasy of these two inherently required them to have healing abilities, it's part of why you'd be drawn to the class from an aesthetic standpoint.

This, alone, is more than reason enough to keep the abilities.

[Quintessa]

@Veis - yeah those boss and monster autos will take care of that 1 HP too.

[Insertusernamehere]

When I playing PLD I know when I am going to get tankbuster if healer doing nothing about my 50% HP bar i will heal my self, but I prefer keeping my mana for my magic DPS rotation if healer not sleeping..
If Clemency big problem replace it with "Holy Aurora" or even better "The Brightest Morning" I am totally fine with it

[Mousezilla]

I think OP considers this thread some kind of debate masterstroke gotcha after the verbal shellacking he got in his "If the tank isn't pulling everything I do it for them because EFFICIENCY and I don't understand why people aren't praising me for it" post.

[BasicBlake]

I would get thicker skin if something like that upsets you in a videogame.

I love VerCure for when I am off doing stuff solo as rdm and I would be so irritated to lose my guaranteed Dualcast proc in encounters during phase transitions.

[Avatre]

When running as PLD, how else am I supposed to keep going if my healer decides to play DRG?
And when I'm RDM, how else am I supposed to keep the tank alive when the healer decides to play DRG?

[LaylaTsarra]

When running as PLD, how else am I supposed to keep going if my healer decides to play DRG?
And when I'm RDM, how else am I supposed to keep the tank alive when the healer decides to play DRG?

Lets be sure to remove all the cool skills from roles we don't play so we don't have to be jealous of the fact we can't do them. People complain about homogenization and then want to remove stuff that makes roles special.

[Adventica6]

The poor baby had his feelings hurt when someone healed themselves, poor lil guy.

[Tsalmaveth]

As a main healer, this has got to be the most ridiculous suggestion... okay wait no... I've seen worse on these forums. Strike that.

THAT SAID... this is a really insanely bad suggestion. Both of those skills are incredibly useful and can save parties/raids in clutch situations. VerCure is a fast way to let a RDM Raise when things are bad and Healers need to focus on keeping everyone else up and conserving mana. A PLD who knows how to use Clemency correctly can save a total party wipe or give a healer breathing room to attend to others in need of focus at the time. If a healer's feelings get hurt because someone is HELPING them... WHY are you playing a team oriented game in the first place?? I've healed through all levels of this game except Ultimate and it boggles my mind that someone is this short-sighted and, frankly, selfish. Getting an assist is good. You save your precious mana a little bit, and even if you 'waste' a heal... SO WHAT? Are you worried about your parse or something? Afraid of that pesky 'overheal' number? Please.

[Liam_Harper]

I'll never understand these suggestions lately of "bad players are using these skills badly ...let's reward them for it, simplify the game even further and punish the good players who put their toolkits to good use". It's baffling how anyone sees that as logic.