Delete Clemency and Vercure

[Fynlar]

Very insulting as healer if you see RDM or PLD use Clemency/Vercure when you have everything under control.

To which I would say, get over it.

I've had enough scary bad healers that if my health starts dipping under 30% consistently, you can freaking bet I'm gonna start casting vercure no matter how "in control" the healer thinks they are. No offense intended. It's just less of a dps loss than eating dirt on the floor.

This.

[Kisik]

Healers have literally nothing to do when there's no healing needs, beside dps.

There are almost no times, when healing isn't needed. A healer DPSing, is temporarily choosing to ignore the party's health concerns, in favor of contributing to the damage output, while hoping they have enough time to repair the damage taken while they were off focusing on DPS. DPS for a healer is a balancing act, not some side hobby to enjoy while no one is getting hurt.

[ElciaDeiLinus]

We definitely need to remove more abilities and homogenize classes even more, that's the direction we should be asking SE to move in yeah?

[seraf]

lol no there's absolutely no reason to remove those spells and if you take "offense" to them then that is on you. They're support spells and nothing more. If you see a PLD using Clemency on themselves or someone else it's because they saw a lack of healing from the Healers for an upcoming mechanic. The same goes for RDM who make use a quick Vercure to top off after being raised or something else.

[miraidensetsu]

lol no there's absolutely no reason to remove those spells and if you take "offense" to them then that is on you. They're support spells and nothing more. If you see a PLD using Clemency on themselves or someone else it's because they saw a lack of healing from the Healers for an upcoming mechanic. The same goes for RDM who make use a quick Vercure to top off after being raised or something else.

Not always. PLD maybe would like to trigger Divine Veil, that is triggered when received a direct GCD heal.

[seraf]

I'll Clemency or Vercure anyone I want if I see them low on HP at any point.

[Kuroka]

I'll Clemency or Vercure anyone I want if I see them low on HP at any point.

The many times i survived raidwides bc i use a vercure aer countless lol, especially now in emerald when those darn swords would just barely kill you. Or the knockback. And on many chances it was just enough to life and ress the heals, saving an run.

[hynaku]

Actually I support the change of clemency and the out right removal of vercure. Non-healers shouldn't be stand ins for healers.

Till the healer dies and have no one to heal the tank and no one to raise the dead healer. Every class should have some type of self heals.

[SamRF]

Till the healer dies and have no one to heal the tank and no one to raise the dead healer. Every class should have some type of self heals.

Right, might as well get rid of healers altogether.

[Enla]

Right, might as well get rid of healers altogether.

Healers can't do anything if they're dead, or are you insisting the group wipe just so the healer can feel important? Self heals are fine, and I'm glad classes most classes have access to some form of small heal. Second Wind is a godsend in particular, as is Curing Waltz as a Dancer.