Can we please have more options to lower graphics settings?

[SinisterJoints]

Benchmarks are more of an indication of potential performance than an actual undisputed grade. The only true test is playing the actual game.

Not really, Benchmarks are designed as a WORST CASE SCENARIO, they're designed to test and thus they stress the machine to the limit of its capabilities of running the software. That's why its called a "Benchmark" and not a "Software that will show you what you MIGHT get"

not a "worse case scenario" ...at all

Benchmarks aren't there to do anything except show you how your computer performs while doing whatever said benchmark does. In this instance, playing a game. You can change settings to get better worse performance so you know where you are comfortable playing at (is it grainy etc) anyways yea

THATS why its called a benchmark, because the user can use it AS A BENCHMARK TO SEE HOW

[AnimaAnimus]

If you have a bridge with a total, overall weight limit of 20 tons and 30 1-ton cars drive over it and cause it to break, then it might have been better to build a stronger bridge. I get high framerates in instances and massive lag spikes in populated cities like Limsa.

This is a bad example as its easier to see the bridge as your PC and the cars as the game. The bridge is built to withstand only so much, like your PC and if driving too many cars, or in this case a 10 year old game, causes it to break, then the fault isn't the bridge, its the people trying to drive across a bridge they well know cant handle their weight. So "build a better PC" is the better answer to this.

There are prebuilds with minimal costs that can play this game with ease. Asking a company to go backward because you refuse to go forward is ridiculous.

[DumdogsWorld]

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I think people missed the entire point of what I was trying to say.

I like consistency as much as I like high FPS. I shouldn't need to upgrade all of the hardware in my otherwise-decent computer so I can handle Limsa during prime time, when I can handle everything else in this game just fine.

Lower settings would help with that, not just with computers that run the whole game at 15 FPS.

[foussi]

Hmmm how hot does your pc get?

[Penthea]

Considering that SE have dropped ps3 support we can assume that players are expected to have a gaming rig that has a certain minimum requirement, which would be above what a ps3 can do.

I'm not against giving players more options to reduce the graphical intensity of the game, but I think SE want to maintain a certain aesthetic and they have decided that anything below a certain requirement goes against that. There comes a point in which turning down the graphics enough can seriously change how a game looks.

If you're getting below 15 fps in instances your gaming rig is in serious need of an upgrade. I understand that for some people this means spending money they do not have, but this is how it is with gaming. If you don't keep up with how technology moves on you're going to run into problems. Pc gaming is not a cheap hobby.

[KrimKreyole]

Yes, but it doesn't make sense that people who could play the game at minimum 30fps in the past no longer can get at least that.

When updating an MMO it's important to keep it accessible, even if the requirements have changed.

Also the laptop that they have can run the ShB benchmark and get a Standard rating on medium settings - they get workable FPS there, but certain raids prevent them from performing well.




That means something is not going right in the game itself and perhaps being able to turn off the identified problems would help.

My computer is personally fine, I could probably stand to upgrade my 1060 at some point but I'm not the one having issues here.

[Penthea]

Yes, but it doesn't make sense that people who could play the game at minimum 30fps in the past no longer can get at least that.

When updating an MMO it's important to keep it accessible, even if the requirements have changed.

You've just answered yourself. The requirements have changed, so it does make sense that for some people their fps is lower than before.

Also the laptop that they have can run the ShB benchmark and get a Standard rating on medium settings - they get workable FPS there, but certain raids prevent them from performing well.

Benchmarks are more of an indication of potential performance than an actual undisputed grade. The only true test is playing the actual game.

[Ueki_Kosuke]

Yes, but it doesn't make sense that people who could play the game at minimum 30fps in the past no longer can get at least that.

When updating an MMO it's important to keep it accessible, even if the requirements have changed.

Also the laptop that they have can run the ShB benchmark and get a Standard rating on medium settings - they get workable FPS there, but certain raids prevent them from performing well.




That means something is not going right in the game itself and perhaps being able to turn off the identified problems would help.

My computer is personally fine, I could probably stand to upgrade my 1060 at some point but I'm not the one having issues here.

Hold up you have a GTX 1060? How are you even getting 15 fps lmao. Even with low settings. There's definetly something wrong with the setup. Not the game tho.

[xxvaynxx]

Hold up you have a GTX 1060? How are you even getting 15 fps lmao. Even with low settings. There's definetly something wrong with the setup. Not the game tho.

I HIGHLY doubt he has a 1060 if he's getting that. My laptop has a 1060 and I got extremely high for the SHB benchmark with everything turned the highest possibly setting.

[tdb]

When updating an MMO it's important to keep it accessible, even if the requirements have changed.

At some point though maintaining the lower settings will become more trouble than it's worth. They may require different shaders and code paths which will need to be kept up to date with everything else and tested. That doesn't come for free, so at some point it's necessary to just drop them and bump up the system requirements. At the moment the game's minimum requirement is a GPU which was released six years ago as a lower mid-range model; it has equivalent power to a high-end GPU from 11 years ago and today's low-end discrete GPUs can achieve the same performance.

Also the laptop that they have can run the ShB benchmark and get a Standard rating on medium settings - they get workable FPS there, but certain raids prevent them from performing well.

Isn't that screenshot from Stormblood benchmark though? I think Shadowbringers introduced some new and more expensive rendering techniques.

Not really, Benchmarks are designed as a WORST CASE SCENARIO, they're designed to test and thus they stress the machine to the limit of its capabilities of running the software. That's why its called a "Benchmark" and not a "Software that will show you what you MIGHT get"

That's not some kind of universal rule for benchmarks. Particularly for an MMO it's difficult for the benchmark to account for all the other players.

Hold up you have a GTX 1060? How are you even getting 15 fps lmao. Even with low settings. There's definetly something wrong with the setup. Not the game tho.

The OP has a GTX 1060 and is able to run the game without much issues. OP's friend gets 15 fps with hardware that hasn't been mentioned yet, though I strongly suspect an integrated GPU.