E8 was lame as hell *spoilers*

[Gula]

Usually, for savage, yes, it is. Most people don't do this blind.

The people who make those videos have done it blind though. You're admitting to laziness and an unwillingness for players to learn on their own.

[Sathona]

Dunno, i loved E8, the one i hated was E6. Flame Wingman was cool and all[and predictable] but the fight felt like an irritating chore than an actual fight xD
E8 had a solid soundtrack backing it up with a cinematic during the end etc felt nice, the mechanics were a little dull for the final fight of the tier but dunno.
I wouldnt call it lame IMHO

[linay]

Why couldn't it have been in normal though? It could've still be in Savage but with crazier mechanics as to be expected. It just felt incomplete in normal.

Because the premise of the summoning is Ryne trying to harness the power. It has no relation with the story of Shiva and the dragon.

Remember that Normal is the canon fight. Savage is the simulation.

[technole]

Usually, for savage, yes, it is. Most people don't do this blind.

Are you one of those who say everyone should know so-and-so mechanics on day one? Even savage is done blind on alarm clock.

For story mode, can be cleared in a few pulls. Anyone should be able to go blind.

[Derio]

For me it was e7 which I thought was lame. Still I wish they didnt go the Byakko route for Shiva and the dragon. I felt that was a tad bit lazy but probably due to it being easier to make the model.

My problem is Ryne being the catalyst for the summon which for me kind of makes the fight less significant.

[Haprimac]

I liked the Zodiark-splitting stomp (Shattered World) she did instead of Shiva's heel click.

[ElazulHP]

One thing that gets me about E8...

Square: Guys stop lewding Ryne she's like 15 years old...

Also, Square: Here's Ryne/Shiva sexualized and getting completely undressed in a raid...

[PondHollow]

I didn't like how pedophilish it was, but my main disappointment was that we didn't get to kill Ryne and Gaia.

[Sclair0]

I thought it was okay, I did enjoy it...

But the set up for E8 is pretty contrived and the gaia-comes-to-the-rescue is a little silly given she's know Ryne for what seems like only a couple days at most. The story definitely felt like it was written backwards from that intended ending and didn't quite justify why Ryne had to be Shiva in a believable way (which we all knew was going to go exactly this way) nor Gaia and Rynes sudden best-friendsness.

But I found it was okay overall. No doubt Gaias rescue cutscene will be annoying as fuck in a week or two though after running E8 ten or so times.

Overall I think I would have preferred a more emotional callback to heavensward based on our characters own relationship with Ysayle to what we got, but what we got wasn't terrible.

[Stepjam]

Why couldn't it have been in normal though? It could've still be in Savage but with crazier mechanics as to be expected. It just felt incomplete in normal.

They like saving stuff for savage. Sorta like titan maximum and the second stage fights in O4S, o8s, and o12s. Sort of a bonus for them.