beastmaster next job

[Savagelf]

first off limit job aren't a failure. limit jobs are niche jobs for player who like something else. and yes I have blue mage on two of my character one is lvl 53 and other 51. blue mage is design for player who like blue mage so it can feel like blue mage. yes I want bst so that you go out tame pets and lvl them up and raise them for combat and so they fight along side of blue mage. limit jobs aren't a failure they only a failure to people on the genarel forum who don't spend enough time in game who want every job to be like wow class

at one point I felt same way yet I realize that use bst as way to improve summoner and build better pet jobs and make job like summoner better

[MistyMew]

Beastmaster, full , complete job or please do not add it in.

[Auryan]

Only FF11 has precedent of BST being a pet job as well, if you were to take an approach more akin to ff5 then imagine a dps or tank, but almost all of their gcds/ogcds summon a monster into the arena for an attack then they bounce.

What about Tactics Advanced where it literally revolved on charming random beasts to do anything? I even remember BST having a buddy relationship with BLU where you charmed certain beasts and force it to you use a move so the BLU can learn it. I'd ike it if that dynamic gets translated here.

And keeping with TA, BST can even borrow the monster bank to keep and raise their collection of beasties. That could be apart of its collection niche.

[ReiMakoto]

What about Tactics Advanced where it literally revolved on charming random beasts to do anything? I even remember BST having a buddy relationship with BLU where you charmed certain beasts and force it to you use a move so the BLU can learn it. I'd ike it if that dynamic gets translated here.

And keeping with TA, BST can even borrow the monster bank to keep and raise their collection of beasties. That could be apart of its collection niche.

You seem to be confusing Beastmaster and Morpher here. Beastmasters could charm a monster for a single round, this wasn't making it a pet it was a one round mind control that was often used to force moves onto blu. The monster bank was a collab between Hunter and Morpher, hunter would capture beasts and put it in the Bank as a Zoo, then if you raised the monster in the Zoo enough, your Morpher could become that monster and share its stats and abilities. None of this implies a Pet based job, as I mentioned FFXI is the only interation which is focus'd on pet based gameplay, unless you count 10-2, where you only had one pet and it functioned like a normal job

[Psytic]

What a waste of our time and developers time if they try to do more of these lame duck limited jobs. Full job or not at all. Nearly every MMO ever released has some sort of pet class. I don't see why FFXIV doesn't have the creativity to implement it as a full job. Even if it was a clone of Beastmaster in Everquest which was pretty similar to Puppet Master it would work as a full job or if they had charm beast like the Enchanter and Ranger. If it was like Hunter in WoW it would work as well very easily. You could travel around capturing monsters and it shrinks them down like WoW and each pet has a unique ability or skill tree. You fight alongside the pet with dual axes like EQ. Done.

Even Blue Mage showed a surprising lack of creativity. WoW has druid, a class that can handle 4 different roles. There is no reason why Blu cant be a full job either if they locked abilities behind stances.

[Lambdafish]

What a waste of our time and developers time if they try to do more of these lame duck limited jobs.

The level of BLU activity in PF during 5.1 showed that it was in fact not a waste of time.

[VenKitsune]

The level of BLU activity in PF during 5.1 showed that it was in fact not a waste of time.

When are BLU's active? When they receive an update.

When are all the other jobs, non-limited as they are, active? Literally all the time.

This, my friend, is called wasting our time if they design a job to deliberately be played less.

[Savagelf]

let me explain why I want beastmaster to be a limit job and how beast master could be use as way improve summoner and scholar and future jobs such as medic which was one my suggest. beast master allow the devs to play around with pet AI system which at future date they apply to summoner and scholar. it let them work improve it slowly and figure how make a better pets job which they apply to exist pet jobs like summoner and scholar. beast master won't be bound to dungeon and raids like blu which with blue mage the can play around with spell and see which are good spell and which are bad which also can allow them improve black mage and red mages. this why I see limit jobs as test bed for improve exist jobs and we the players will benfit for the devs play around on the limit jobs in long runs.

are they other jobs I like seen

ranger a hand weild crossbow job for example
or medic which my suggest who weild pistol and is mix between chemist and has dog the aid them in heal they party.

[LolitaBansheeMeru]

let me explain why I want beastmaster to be a limit job and how beast master could be use as way improve summoner and scholar and future jobs such as medic which was one my suggest. beast master allow the devs to play around with pet AI system which at future date they apply to summoner and scholar. it let them work improve it slowly and figure how make a better pets job which they apply to exist pet jobs like summoner and scholar. beast master won't be bound to dungeon and raids like blu which with blue mage the can play around with spell and see which are good spell and which are bad which also can allow them improve black mage and red mages. this why I see limit jobs as test bed for improve exist jobs and we the players will benfit for the devs play around on the limit jobs in long runs.

Heres the thing Pet jobs are not complicated on how to make them work How they are complete failures when it comes to pets is behond me...

People play pet based jobs to depend on the pet for everything as you being the background person...

Its not as hard as they make it all they have to do to fix the pet jobs is make all every single thing damage wise for summoner revole around the pet its really that simple.
Same goes as sch same thing just on healing
with you the player at most using command move sets- and pet buffs

THe main theme of having a pet is you being the background supporting your minion/minions and isssuing comands like a general or overlord(based on person) not you fighting along side your pet casting heavy magic and heavy range.

[Savagelf]

the truth is it not easy as you say first there 3 different type of pet jobs

1st pet focus job were you pet is the focus everything is focus on pet and not the jobs

2nd hybrid pet job focus focus on both the pet and the jobs were both benfit for the pet jobs

2nd one is my pefrer type. see with summoner they could built so you first summon carbruncle as low lvl summon and have high summon to summon ifrit and put they attack with debuff a


3nd pet isn't important.