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    Eden's Verse: Refulgance who will we fight?

    Getting this out now, since in less than 12 hours we will roughly have the answer. But in the final fight of Eden's Verse, who will we fight? Most people, including myself, want Shiva. But with the reveal of the name, that isn't as likely as before, so what do people think we will get.

    Me and my FC mates had this as a thought, pooling all of our ideas. We will be fighting Shiva, with a slight combination of Tsukuyomi and Sophia and a bit of Hraesvalgr.

    Basically, the idea was fighting Shiva as a Yukionna, and her manipulating light and darkness like the phases of the moon, using light to "freeze" things and darkness to unfreeze. She would have mannerisms similar to Sophia with trying to maintain balance and would ride on top of Hraesvalgr similar to how Sophia rides on top of her "daughter". When we came to this conclusion we all agreed that that would be a cool looking fight.

    So what do you guys think it'll be? And what would you like?
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    I am hoping it will be Shiva, but with the naming I am on the fence.

    If it's Shiva it better be super emotional.

    I was thinking have M/F Shiva like M/F Omega and one represent the loss of Ysayle the other the loss of Haurchefant. Plus some dragon shenanigans... But I'm still really unsure cause they have Ramuh as tier one and that to me is downright disrespect... Then again, I'd say all the fights and the story last tier were super good, so it's not like in Alexander and Omega where I didn't really feel emotionally invested. I'm super invested in these fight.
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    I'm hoping for Shiva as well, but only if they give it the proper emotional weight like Anarnee stated.

    A real interesting curve ball would be Moogle Mog though. Thornmarch 2, Extreme Moogleoo!
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    If Refulgence has a meaning of radiance or brilliance, I'd wager the boss of that would be a Lightwarden-like Sin Eater created by Eden itself. It is probably one of the remaining love names that haven't been used yet:

    Agape
    Philautia
    Pragma
    Ludas
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    I want King Moogle Mog that turns into a school bus.
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    Refulgence can be associated with crystal, can't it? Ice crystal might be possible.

    I think it'd be nice if it's Shiva and then have all Eden-specific bosses for the last tier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu View Post
    If Refulgence has a meaning of radiance or brilliance, I'd wager the boss of that would be a Lightwarden-like Sin Eater created by Eden itself. It is probably one of the remaining love names that haven't been used yet:

    Agape
    Philautia
    Pragma
    Ludas
    Mania
    I'm throwing my hat in to this one too.

    If they did do shiva this time around, there wouldn't be any primals left for the 3rd eden tier, but i suppose we'll see how the story develops.
    We'll have to see.
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    FF8 Shiva.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu View Post
    If Refulgence has a meaning of radiance or brilliance, I'd wager the boss of that would be a Lightwarden-like Sin Eater created by Eden itself. It is probably one of the remaining love names that haven't been used yet:

    Agape
    Philautia
    Pragma
    Ludas
    Mania

    Quote Originally Posted by VenKitsune View Post
    I'm throwing my hat in to this one too.

    If they did do shiva this time around, there wouldn't be any primals left for the 3rd eden tier, but i suppose we'll see how the story develops.
    We'll have to see.

    I don't think that the meaning of Refulgence is lost on any of us, but I think that the reason there are a lot of people still hopeful for it relating to Shiva because the German name for it is "Erstarrung" which could still be related to ice. I think that it would be a very clever naming for the ice fight and right in line with the others: Inundation, Sepulture, Fulmination, and Furor are all pretty poetic.

    I could also see them doing something along the lines of, let's say the light is trying to get out of control again, and we're maybe not fighting Shiva but we are trying to call on the Ice element and she saves us.

    I would like the primals out of the way so that the final tier can be a focus on Eden.

    The crystallizing aspect of the light could also be a reason for the German naming, since the light does seem to freeze everything over as it takes hold.

    All in all... I think it would be an even bigger disrespect to make her E9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu View Post
    If Refulgence has a meaning of radiance or brilliance, I'd wager the boss of that would be a Lightwarden-like Sin Eater created by Eden itself. It is probably one of the remaining love names that haven't been used yet:

    Agape
    Philautia
    Pragma
    Ludas
    Mania
    Agape aside, the other 4 could be possible in the last tier. Though it seems a bit arbitrary since the last fight should be of greater significance than the others, but which of the 4 is of greater importance?

    Also the main reason why I say Agape aside is because, its fan speculation that Agape is/was Titania. Each Lightwarden parallels one of the Scions and their "story" on the First. Agape, in addition to being the only love missing from the traditional 4, also mirrors Urianger and his unconditional love of all things. Just like how the Fae have a love of all things, which is where Urianger comes into the picture.
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    Last edited by Eloah; 02-18-2020 at 02:46 PM.
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