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  1. #21
    Player
    Noitems's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Noitems Ever
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    Goblin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Or they could just realistically boost the tomes you get for the older 80 dungeons so that those going through MSQ can gear up faster?

    The problem is with IL sync in Amaurot and the like is that many new players going into Amaurot/Twinning/Akademia are rocking lvl 79 forgiven gear. So that sync is there to help them out while they gear up. Personally I think the most realistic option they could do is just boost the amount of tomes you get from the 5.0 level 80 dungeons.

    That's a big problem for new players as they have to entirely gear their belt/right side and some players I've gone into roulettes with in some cases don't even have their AF gear (which is still a big issue when the game basically gives it to you for free.

    Increasing tome count keeps players in there and gives more value to those rous.
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  2. #22
    Player deadman1204's Avatar
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    Fransisco Acutus
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    Ultros
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Best Change Ever.

    Hated Amaurot. So many tanks/dps (lots of mchs and bards too) would just sit in ALL the bads and expect to get healed through them.
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  3. #23
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    Avidria's Avatar
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    Avi Taro
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Yeah was hoping we'd keep more than two in the roulette for a change... Oh well
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    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

  4. #24
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    VenKitsune's Avatar
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    Ven Diclonius
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    Cerberus
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    If you're after Allegory, then running Expert Roulette and getting either Amaurot, Twinning or Akademia (15 tomes) instead of Cosmos or Anamnesis (50 tomes) would be quite the kick in the teeth.
    I think they're suggesting that the rewards are flat across the board.
    I mean...why not? More variety, ilvl sync so they'd all take about the same amount of time to complete, and it eliminates the need for a useless lvl 80 roulette nobody ever runs apart from maybe crafters for the first week of a patch desperately trying to get tomes for mats.
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    2.0 Veteran from 2013. Just looking to be helpful. DRK is Love, DRK is life.

    (Ignore the levels on my character card, the tool i used to make it hasn't been updated for 4.0)

  5. #25
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    Tlamila's Avatar
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I was hoping to keep Twinning and Akademia but I'm happy to get rid of Aumarot, and ofc you can't do a lvl 80 roulette with just Aumarot.
    As others said already, it's good to have a division because the other dungeons reward too few now, and it wouldn't be fair. It also wouldn't be fair to make them reward as much as the new ones, since they're easier. Plus, even if you leave aside tomes and materia, the gear level dropped is very different too.
    It's also good to have a lvl 80 roulette for people who are just gearing up, to get a load of lower level tomes and be in full deepshadow first. Think how people who just finished MSQ don't have the ilvl to even enter Cosmos, let alone the new dungeon. And if higher geared people want more tomes in one day, it's also good to have more roulettes for it.
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  6. #26
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    Best Change Ever.

    Hated Amaurot. So many tanks/dps (lots of mchs and bards too) would just sit in ALL the bads and expect to get healed through them.
    I was unaware this happens only in Amaurot...
    /sarcasm
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  7. #27
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    Rasikko's Avatar
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    Rasikko Rakitto
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    Best Change Ever.

    Hated Amaurot. So many tanks/dps (lots of mchs and bards too) would just sit in ALL the bads and expect to get healed through them.
    I've gotten Amaurot twice in a row now in this 80 roulette. You're only gonna avoid it by not doing the roulette at all. I don't like it either, it's a mental drain. No matter how well/optimized I play, that i440 sync bottle necks the crap out of my character.
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  8. #28
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    I've gotten Amaurot twice in a row now in this 80 roulette. You're only gonna avoid it by not doing the roulette at all. I don't like it either, it's a mental drain. No matter how well/optimized I play, that i440 sync bottle necks the crap out of my character.
    But there's no reason to do 80 roulette anyway.
    Doing either Cosmos or Anamnesis on it's own gives you more Allegory than doing 80 roulette.
    Unless you want Phantasmagoria, then 80 roulette gives a bit more.
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  9. #29
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Hunt trains are the new tome machine. Current A rank 16/16 trains yield 160 Allegory, 320 Phanta and 640 Nuts. Dungeons take way too long. Personally I wouldn't mind if they kept all 5 dungeons in Expert Roulette. It sure gives more variety when you queue for it.
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  10. #30
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    No. That's one more roulette to get tomestone to buy material. It's great.
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