Thread: Revelations from Patch 5.2

Originally Posted by QT_Melon

So still pondering from before...

I forgot to mention about my musings about Hythlodaeus that apparently the 5.2 dungeon seems to have a lot to do with his position? Also the line about the Elidibus - could be "he never became the core" or that I still think that Hythlodaeus has some involvement with one or both of the primals since he is the Architect. I highly doubt he just didn't know.

Sadly, I fear Hythlodaeus, as interesting as a character he has the potential to be (have been?), seems to be one of those 'one-time plot-exposition device' characters. So even if it makes sense for him to be involved in some way shape or form in regards to the 'Will of the Star' projects, I am not hopeful for him to be incorporated any deeper into the story.

(Surface Slap)(Momora Mora)

MSQ

Goodness gracious those empty holes in the fishing log are so disgusting to look at.

It's always fascinating to hear about what kinds of dreams other people have because I'm not terribly good at remembering any of my own. Perhaps they're too mundane to distinguish from reality.

ANAMNESIS

These things don't come with instruction manuals, do they? Though even if they did, I'm afraid it wouldn't be of much help here, for the typewriter-bangers fancy to succeed where numbers beyond counting have failed. Nonquestions beget nonanswers and even a Buddha-natured dog cannot solve a nonexistent chicken and egg riddle.

The idle animation is a bit, uh... tasteless? True to life, but still...

WERLYT

Mmm, beef taco MREs.

The noise of background banter is one those things you tend to take for granted. Despite the dumpsterfire that Eureka was, the shout chat trashtalk was a jolly good blast from the past.

Forward sweep and variable geometry, that's doublepluscool. And canards, yeah, canards make everything look cooler.

EDEN I

We can't all be rain men, but even I know that a thousand thousand is nowhere near close to a quadrillion.

Special snowflakes don't need no fact checking. They're too busy waking up the sheeple to go and ask the persons involved if they got it right. I would have sold a kidney for a chance to dropkick that skank off the mountain.

And another to toss whatshisname waifubait into a meatgrinder. Cardboard cutouts that only exist to fellate some manchild's fragile little ego aren't people. Or even characters. They're nothing more than insulting wastes of screentime.

STEWARDS

Sirmadam? Doesn't he see that- ah, I see, I see.

The preference for consuming prose in a tangible form is sometimes a hindrance when it comes to putting the pieces together. As comprehensive as the available commentaries are, reading secondhand information about something isn't quite the same as experiencing it yourself. But for the time being it'll have to do.

The other side I know, though I wonder if I'm reading it right. How far in advance was it planned?

EDEN II

Even though most of the guests made it in time for a serving of clearance sale cake and sparkling water it must have been a bad day for the master of ceremonies. It took so long to light the candles that some of them had almost burned down before the whole set was on fire.

It's mind-boggling how eager some are to sing the praises of third-rate isekai tripe like this.

YoRHa

[This is an unwinnable fight.][Notwithstanding,][give it one more go.]

Hearing people parrot lines they can't even recognize as references isn't fun. And neither is seeing them lose their marbles over some crude namedrops you can google in a minute. It's both depressing and funny in equal measure, but not fun.

A complaint is a complaint, an allusion only through a blind stroke of luck that wouldn't come to the light of day until long after the fact.

From south to north the three dragons of Eurus deliver three doubles, a triple triplet and a pair of quarters totaling three myriads, two kilos and three ares. Nooblord, adjust.

Originally Posted by Lutefisk

(Surface Slap)(Momora Mora)

MSQ

Goodness gracious those empty holes in the fishing log are so disgusting to look at.

It\\'s always fascinating to hear about what kinds of dreams other people have because I\\'m not terribly good at remembering any of my own. Perhaps they\\'re too mundane to distinguish from reality.

ANAMNESIS

These things don\\'t come with instruction manuals, do they? Though even if they did, I\\'m afraid it wouldn\\'t be of much help here, for the typewriter-bangers fancy to succeed where numbers beyond counting have failed. Nonquestions beget nonanswers and even a Buddha-natured dog cannot solve a nonexistent chicken and egg riddle.

The idle animation is a bit, uh... tasteless? True to life, but still...

WERLYT

Mmm, beef taco MREs.

The noise of background banter is one those things you tend to take for granted. Despite the dumpsterfire that Eureka was, the shout chat trashtalk was a jolly good blast from the past.

Forward sweep and variable geometry, that\\'s doublepluscool. And canards, yeah, canards make everything look cooler.

EDEN I

We can\\'t all be rain men, but even I know that a thousand thousand is nowhere near close to a quadrillion.

Special snowflakes don\\'t need no fact checking. They\\'re too busy waking up the sheeple to go and ask the persons involved if they got it right. I would have sold a kidney for a chance to dropkick that skank off the mountain.

And another to toss whatshisname waifubait into a meatgrinder. Cardboard cutouts that only exist to fellate some manchild\\'s fragile little ego aren\\'t people. Or even characters. They\\'re nothing more than insulting wastes of screentime.

STEWARDS

Sirmadam? Doesn\\'t he see that- ah, I see, I see.

The preference for consuming prose in a tangible form is sometimes a hindrance when it comes to putting the pieces together. As comprehensive as the available commentaries are, reading secondhand information about something isn\\'t quite the same as experiencing it yourself. But for the time being it\\'ll have to do.

The other side I know, though I wonder if I\\'m reading it right. How far in advance was it planned?

EDEN II

Even though most of the guests made it in time for a serving of clearance sale cake and sparkling water it must have been a bad day for the master of ceremonies. It took so long to light the candles that some of them had almost burned down before the whole set was on fire.

It\\'s mind-boggling how eager some are to sing the praises of third-rate isekai tripe like this.

Mate? What the heck are you trying to say

Originally Posted by Dreggit

Mate? What the heck are you trying to say

I literally have no idea, mad about ocean fishing? As that is where Momora Mora is from but seems nigh gibberish in context to the Lore subsection of the forms.

Baffling troll at worst, straight huh at best.

Zenos and his new "friend"

What if it is another shard of us that was raised to ascian? I don't think there would be many people who's soul colour Zenos would recognise (simply because he would not pay attention to many).

So, about the WoL's nature and 5.2:

I get that seeing a star shower-esque thing is supposed to act as a power trigger for those with ancient soul fragments and it makes them able to hear Hydaelyn. But I've rewatched the opening scene of ARR multiple times to be sure and we hear Hydaelyn's voice in our "dream" without a star shower having occurred. We don't see a star shower til we get our first crystal (and then we immediately see Hydaelyn herself). So... that's interesting?

And correct me if I'm wrong, but the above would only apply to 2.0 WoLs, right? If I remember right, the 1.0 WoLs do experience a star shower vision as soon as they get off their carriage/boat.

Regarding G'raha and 5.2:

I am worried for my boy, but I am also heartened to hear that the JP version apparently refers to his "stake in the outcome" in english as actually being "his wish". Which is in turn referring to the desire to follow us back to the source and continue having adventures. Which I am all for, and really hope happens.

I still think he's gonna pull a "rejoining" of his soul to that of G'raha on the source (ie Ardbert and WoL) and then he'll wake up on the source with memories intact from his Crystal Exarch self. Its the best character outcome, as far as I can see. Crystal Exarch's experience continues on and is not lost, and source!G'raha doesn't get deprived of a future of helping his hero which, if CE!G'raha is anything to go by, is exactly what he really wants anyhow. Sealing himself in the tower was a sacrifice, not a preference, after all.

If the above is the ultimate result for G'raha, that would make him the aetherically densest soul on the Source, which I'm sure will have *some* kind of consequences. And now I'm back to worrying. lol

Regarding Elidibus's plans:

Am I the only one who thinks its possible Elidibus' gambit is going to work? Just, story-wise, it makes sense for him to have some kind of victory leading into 6.0. And it'd be weird for the plot to end up being "Lohgriff attempted a flood of light; it was thwarted by Minfilia. Emet-selch attempted a flood of light; it was thwarted by WoL. Elidibus attempted a flood of light; it was thwarted by WoL." Like, either succeed this time or stop proving the definition of insanity.

Originally Posted by Dreggit

Mate? What the heck are you trying to say

It's their personal observations and opinions on what stood out most to them in each of these areas of the patch.

MSQ == They don't like their fishing log not being complete. Something about dreams in the MSQ caused them a moment of introspection.

Amanesis == Musings about the crystals containing the plans for original forms of creatures we've fought in other forms. Basically saying that it was the writers for XIV trying to answer the age old question, "What came first, the chicken or the egg?"

Werlyt == Beef Taco MREs probably referring to getting the shits, i.e. this part felt like shit? Either that or it tasted surprisngly good. Sounds like they had some genuine fun.

Eden I == We're not all idiot savants/good at math, but the number scale was way off. They don't like the NPC referenced here, not sure who the skank is. I assume Ryne or Gaia. But it's Eden I, so... well I guess the options are the same. Really doesn't like Thancred? I think they're talking about Thancred, but it might be Urianger. I don't know who they consider Waifubait that strokes the PC's ego.

Stewards ==Not sure about this part. I don't know what Stewards is even about in relation to this patch. Just more musings and reactions to what's going, with an earnest question about how far back were the devs/writers planning this part.

Eden II == I think this was kind of a way of saying that the second part of Eden to them was all flash and no substance. Took so long to get to the good part that it ruined itself? They didn't like it, and I guess can think of other games in similar veins that they'd rather play.

Originally Posted by Vyrerus

It's their personal observations and opinions on what stood out most to them in each of these areas of the patch.
Werlyt == Beef Taco MREs probably referring to getting the shits, i.e. this part felt like shit? Either that or it tasted surprisngly good. Sounds like they had some genuine fun.

Nah, the Tacos are

Very misheard lyrics from Ultima remixed into the Ruby Weapon patch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d6X...ature=youtu.be

Many people are hearing "tacos" Some have said Big Beef Tacos like above, to Beef Soft Tacos or like below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-EUi3sXGhE