Thoughts on class changes?

[Tlamila]

Since oddly enough there is no discussion about it yet, and the patch notes are out.

RDM buff is so tiny, I don't know what else we could have expected.
BLM and WHM AoE nerfed for less than 4 targets. Yuppy.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Since oddly enough there is no discussion about it yet, and the patch notes are out.

RDM buff is so tiny, I don't know what else we could have expected.
BLM and WHM AoE nerfed for less than 4 targets. Yuppy.

Ummm. You misread those. BLM and WHM were buffed, not nerfed...

The reduction of potency is fixed to 25% of max potency after the first mob. aka the skills do 75% damage to all additional enemies. Not 25% dmg to all additional enemies.

[Tlamila]

Ummm. You misread those. BLM and WHM were buffed, not nerfed...

No. It's a fixed reduction of 25% after the first enemy. So "10% less for the second, 20% less for the third," now becomes 25% less. Only from the 4th target on it's a buff.

I actually read it as a buff too at first, but someone made me notice it wasn't.

[Packetdancer]

No. It's a fixed reduction of 25% after the first enemy. So "10% less for the second, 20% less for the third," now becomes 25% less. Only from the 4th target on it's a buff.

I actually read it as a buff too at first, but someone made me notice it wasn't.

I mean, yes, but I find that generally I'm either targeting one thing with Misery during a boss fight (in which case this changes absolutely nothing) or I'm targeting one of about eight mobs all huddled into a pile trying to chew on the tank's face after a wall-to-wall pull, in which case this ends up being a net buff in terms of damage to the entire cluster. In the scenario where you have only a handful of mobs, yeah, it's a nerf, but I think in common use cases—at least in my common use cases—it's going to work out as worst-case a total wash, and best case a buff.

[Hugowulf]

Since oddly enough there is no discussion about it yet, and the patch notes are out.

RDM buff is so tiny, I don't know what else we could have expected.
BLM and WHM AoE nerfed for less than 4 targets. Yuppy.

From what I read, those changes were buffs. Unless I somehow misread it, tbh everything seems really meh to me.

[AsukaAsakura]

Since oddly enough there is no discussion about it yet, and the patch notes are out.

RDM buff is so tiny, I don't know what else we could have expected.
BLM and WHM AoE nerfed for less than 4 targets. Yuppy.

RDM changes are honestly a joke. +20 potency to 2 CDs and +20 potency to aero/thunder. This won't be enough to bring them even up to BLM, or SMN (post nerf) And then SMN being too strong... So cut 5 potency off the 2 dots. I honestly don't know where they even get their information when it comes to the balance. But I guess RDM is probably intended to suffer cause they bring the instant cast raises and heals as needed for 'support'

[Hanayumi]

RDM changes are honestly a joke. +20 potency to 2 CDs and +20 potency to aero/thunder. This won't be enough to bring them even up to BLM, or SMN (post nerf) And then SMN being too strong... So cut 5 potency off the 2 dots. I honestly don't know where they even get their information when it comes to the balance. But I guess RDM is probably intended to suffer cause they bring the instant cast raises and heals as needed for 'support'

Will have to see how it plays, but yeah they're never going to let RDM get even remotely close to BLM numbers, lol. It needs to be on par with SMN though, rough similar utility and such. Guess we will shall see if those SMN nerfs are enough, may seem small but we keep those dots do add up on the long run since we keep them up all the time.

[deadman1204]

RDM changes are honestly a joke. +20 potency to 2 CDs and +20 potency to aero/thunder. This won't be enough to bring them even up to BLM, or SMN (post nerf) And then SMN being too strong... So cut 5 potency off the 2 dots. I honestly don't know where they even get their information when it comes to the balance. But I guess RDM is probably intended to suffer cause they bring the instant cast raises and heals as needed for 'support'

But RDM shouldn't ever be close to BLM. It has group actions/utilities. As far as the distance behind SMN - thats because SMN is still OP.

[SinisterJoints]

RDM changes are honestly a joke. +20 potency to 2 CDs and +20 potency to aero/thunder. This won't be enough to bring them even up to BLM, or SMN (post nerf) And then SMN being too strong... So cut 5 potency off the 2 dots. I honestly don't know where they even get their information when it comes to the balance. But I guess RDM is probably intended to suffer cause they bring the instant cast raises and heals as needed for 'support'

rdm shouldnt "be up" there with blm, a PURE dps. RDM has a ton of utility. (now smn on the other hand lol)

[Fawkes]

The changes seem pretty inconsequential.