Holy now a bannable spell.

[AsukaAsakura]

Because intent matters. Why do people forget that? Crafting in town isn't considered spamming just because it fills up chat logs. Spamming requires intention to disrupt others.

So if I am in a part of Limsa with no one else, and you come in while I am already casting holy for my own enjoyment, Am I now spamming because my intent was my fun on my own? I'm sorry but using abilities is not spam, its not harassment unless you explicitly follow someone around doing it. Your logic makes 0 sense. And "Spam is spam" per the GM.

Also see Spam: Definition of spam (Entry 1 of 3)
: unsolicited usually commercial messages (such as e-mails, text messages, or Internet postings) sent to a large number of recipients or posted in a large number of places
spam verb
spammed; spamming
Definition of spam (Entry 2 of 3)
transitive verb

: to send or post spam to
spammed customers with discount offers
spamming a message board
intransitive verb

: to send or post spam
The company was accused of spamming via text messages.

Using abilities even if we call it 'spam' doesn't even fit the definition of spam.

[althenawhm]

Because intent matters. Why do people forget that? Crafting in town isn't considered spamming just because it fills up chat logs. Spamming requires intention to disrupt others.

Oh, the GMs are psychic now?

[Raim]

Oh, the GMs are psychic now?

What other purpose does someone have to go into the crowded center of town and spam Holy for minutes on end? Stop pretending like you don't know what was going on. All this silly nonsense about how someone "Just loves to cast magic." For minutes on end? Right in the middle of town? Come on man just admit it. Do judges and police officers need to be psychic to determine intent too or can they rely on common sense? Either way it appears they have made their decision.

[Nandrolone]

Someone on the development team that gives GMs the “OK” to ban for stupid crap like this, seriously needs to re evaluate how they handle situations like that.

[ShariusTC]

there are alot of thing that legal by law, but if you abuse it to harass ppl, you getting arrest, it doesn't need to be a genius to unerstand it, where your ToS in these case?

[AsukaAsakura]

there are alot of thing that legal by law, but if you abuse it to harass ppl, you getting arrest, it doesn't need to be a genius to unerstand it, where your ToS in these case?

Yes, but the only RL comparison you could make is. Someone on a public street started playing music and turning a flash light on and off. This wouldn't be harassment. This wouldn't be illegal. If you called the cops they would tell you to just leave the area.

[ShariusTC]

Yes, but the only RL comparison you could make is. Someone on a public street started playing music and turning a flash light on and off. This wouldn't be harassment. This wouldn't be illegal. If you called the cops they would tell you to just leave the area.

time and place matter, and that guy who getting banned definitely get a bad timming for it

[Keridwyn]

Yes, but the only RL comparison you could make is. Someone on a public street started playing music and turning a flash light on and off. This wouldn't be harassment. This wouldn't be illegal. If you called the cops they would tell you to just leave the area.

Poor allegory because some officers could arrest the person for disturbing the peace or noise violations. While they should just tell the person to move on that's not always what happens sadly.

[AsukaAsakura]

Poor allegory because some officers could arrest the person for disturbing the peace or noise violations. While they should just tell the person to move on that's not always what happens sadly.

Playing music wouldn't be disturbing the peace anywhere I've seen it. I mean, they could even have a permit to play there. The point was, saying that a TOS was similar to legality was the analogy.

[Keridwyn]

Playing music wouldn't be disturbing the peace anywhere I've seen it. I mean, they could even have a permit to play there. The point was, saying that a TOS was similar to legality was the analogy.

Permits are one thing you didn't mention in you original allegory. You said 'standing on a public street playing music turning a flashlight on and off.' I promise you if you were to do that in my town and people complained, cops would come and at least talk to you. I was agreeing that you shouldn't be arrested for it but was pointing out that sometimes people would be arrested for that.

Permit or not if you're doing it at the wrong time of day and you get enough complaints, your chances of being told to just move along go down. Maybe this is a better allegory than I thought after all.