Holy now a bannable spell.

[Saccharin]

I'm interested in this train of thought actually, because I did have someone /tell me before to go meld somewhere else because I was flooding their chat log...

I just ignored them because I was standing right next to a market board and buying small stacks or materia, attempting overmelds, buying more materia, attempting more overmelds, etc.

Shortly after they sent me the /tell I finally finished the pentameld I was working on and at that point I left.

But like... does that mean that person had a "valid" reason to file a complaint?

I would hazard a guess and the person who got banned had one of those macros where they add a chat line when they hit the spell. I'd ban for one of those.

[Granyala]

I'm interested in this train of thought actually, because I did have someone /tell me before to go meld somewhere else because I was flooding their chat log...
But like... does that mean that person had a "valid" reason to file a complaint?

Sort of. It can be super annoying and I personally don't understand why such nonsense is broadcast into the chat in the first place.

Still, there is the option to filter out such messages. He might not have known about that though.

[Fynlar]

Good, these spammers were annoying.

[Jwrigh7784]

I think I see why action was taken on you LolitaBansheeMeru. BL means boys love in manga and generally is associated with homoerotic content written in such a way as to give the viewer a voyeuristic, stylized view of male-to-male romances. Most (not all) content is of a sexually explicit nature (as in R to X rated). Like I said, there is always a reason GM's take action and I suspect THAT is why.

[SweetestLily]

From what I read (unless I missed something) the GM never confirmed anywhere in that conversation that it was holy that he was talking about. All he said was "you spammed and ability" and before that he even said he couldn't disclose specific details about the incident. The offender proceeded to assume it was because of holy and stuck by that as that being the reason. Im willing to bet he was banned for using an ability that came with a macro or something that filled the chat log as that is supported by the fact that the GM himself said he was flooding the chat. The holy incident was probably something else entirely that the GM wasn't even aware of until he mentioned it. He probably screenshotted this whole thing under the assumption that the holy spamming he did that day was the offense that led to this when it was something else entirely that the GM was talking about in the first place. Yeah The GM didn't deny that it was holy, but he also never said IT WAS holy .As he first stated he couldn't go into detail about it so I think he just allowed the player to continue to assume it was.

[LolitaBansheeMeru]

From what I read (unless I missed something) the GM never confirmed anywhere in that conversation that it was holy that he was talking about. All he said was "you spammed and ability" and before that he even said he couldn't disclose specific details about the incident. The offender proceeded to assume it was because of holy and stuck by that as that being the reason. Im willing to bet he was banned for using an ability that came with a macro or something that filled the chat log as that is supported by the fact that the GM himself said he was flooding the chat. The holy incident was probably something else entirely that the GM wasn't even aware of until he mentioned it. He probably screenshotted this whole thing under the assumption that the holy spamming he did that day was the offense that led to this when it was something else entirely that the GM was talking about in the first place. Yeah The GM didn't deny that it was holy, but he also never said IT WAS holy .As he first stated he couldn't go into detail about it so I think he just allowed the player to continue to assume it was.

thats another thing that is bs about the Tos if they are going to ban someone they better write out atleast 270 words explaination with details of what was the issue really you want someone to follow a rule then tell them what one they are being accussed of and for what reasons... you can do this without given names or details of the pathic snitchs name.

More so when they write the Tos so Open-ended that you can get reported for anything if anyone crys over it they can get you with it and then the ........ basicly say please read the tos... and then its like I read the damn tos it never states anything wrong with X

[SweetestLily]

thats another thing that is bs about the Tos if they are going to ban someone they better write out atleast 270 words explaination with details of what was the issue really you want someone to follow a rule then tell them what one they are being accussed of and for what reasons... you can do this without given names or details of the pathic snitchs name.

More so when they write the Tos so Open-ended that you can get reported for anything if anyone crys over it they can get you with it and then the ........ basicly say please read the tos... and then its like I read the damn tos it never states anything wrong with X

While I do think people should be allowed to know exactly why and what they did to get punished, I think in certain cases revealing that information would also reveal the identity of the person who reported you and that is something they're not allowed to do for various reasons. Even without meaning to even sharing a small detail can give the offender enough information to pinpoint exactly who it was that reported them especially if there was only x amount of people who were there when he committed the offense.

[LolitaBansheeMeru]

While I do think people should be allowed to know exactly why and what they did to get punished, I think in certain cases revealing that information would also reveal the identity of the person who reported you and that is something they're not allowed to do for various reasons. Even without meaning to even sharing a small detail can give the offender enough information to pinpoint exactly who it was that reported them especially if there was only x amount of people who were there when he committed the offense.

in those cases they should look at what happan and tell the person a in theory like and if thing to explain what was being consindered wrong ... because honestly todays era what Might be seen as innocent or just playfull to one person or 10 people even could be seen wrong by 5-6 .. and even if it was 1 person who had a issue with it that cry reported over it then its a issue of major parts... The main reason I avoid peope in most MMOs is its not worth the risk honestly you pay 75 dollars+ for the game and then monthlys and then 1 little cry baby who doesn't know how to use the blacklist or go to a diffrent spot in the same town can basicly steal it from you when the dumb Tos isn't even written correctly to the point it can be reasonably followed.

Which by the way they are allowed to they choice not to ... after all you have a right to face your accussor


beside everyone defines things diffrently

for exampe I don't view anything as harassment unless you are following that person every time they teleport and whispering them 3-4 days in a roll its not harassment period.. a single moment or a single spot is not harassment you have options like blacklist or relocation you could use at first if they follow you and whisper u then you know whats going on but if its in a single spot with basic words use the damn system they gave you is how i look at it.

as for spam well i don't view anything as spam unless you say the same line over over and over again
for example
I like tacos i like tacos i like tacos <---lines saying the same thing with no difference used 4 times in a roll is spam everything else is just people talking if you don't like it don't read it.

and anything else honestly I don't have a proplem with

Because lets be honest here if you really reporting someone because your annoyed by something the proplem isn't them its you when you have many other options to where you won't be screwing with someone in a completely unreasonable way ... and you don't even make a effort to use those options honestly your the one who should be banned for abusing the report system.

Besides you also have people who basicly Ninja report they walk into a spot see something they don't like and report without even asking the person to stop or anything they just do it and then funny enough leave the spot right after so honestly .... it does get abused alot

[Haxaan]

Yeah, I think this is silly, especially considering they said it's "Chat spam".

Does this mean I can report people that chain-craft in public areas for chat spam?

100% this. If casting Holy three times is chat spam, then Every single person in Limsa should be reported for harassment. Do you know how many emotes get flooded into the chat log there? It's absolutely absurd.

[Alleo]

100% this. If casting Holy three times is chat spam, then Every single person in Limsa should be reported for harassment. Do you know how many emotes get flooded into the chat log there? It's absolutely absurd.

Well in theory if those spam it too much (the emotes) then yes you could report them. Its just that a lot of people tolerate a lot of things but dont spam too much or you might get punished. There is also a difference between crafting and emotes and skills. Crafting is intented to be that way thus just simply crafting is not punishable. Emotes are normally used only a bit and you also have the option to not spam chat with them by turning it off. If you are spamming the exact same emote constantly then yes you are not using it the intended way because nobody would normally emote that way. And skills are there to kill monsters. Its 100% not intended to spam that in cities, especially those completely annoying ones like holy who blind you and is making a noice.

Honestly if people just behave that way dont cry if SE will one day just stop making it possible to use them at all.