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  1. #151
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    Saefinn's Avatar
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    All it takes is a prof that you are doing it "intentionally" against someone, anything you do in public around someone could get you in trouble.
    Then let's break it down, because that's another assumption.
    The information presented by the log:
    - The player in question was SUSPENDED, not banned.
    - The player in question was told by the GMing the issue was they were spamming
    - The player in question established that they were spamming holy
    - The player in question admitted to having a previous strike

    That's ALL we know.

    Let's consider some possibilities:
    - The player was emote & skill spamming RPers whilst they were RPing. This is quite a common tactic by trolls
    - The player was target specific people to harass and obnoxiously spam with their behaviour, possibly following them to do it, or doing in the space they were trying to do stuff
    - It could be that there behaviours that were compounded as part of them being reported for spamming
    - Their first strike could have been for similar trollish behaviour
    - Any of the above and the people affected possibly asked multiple times for them to stop, but the OP chose to persist
    - And other things I've probably not considered

    Was it this dictatorship and GM abuse of power that people seem to decry it to be? I think of the "get to the gulag" rant I saw in another thread where I commonly did all the thing he said we'd get banned for. And for this thread here, if the case, we'd see it a lot more prevalent.

    With regards to 'proof' we are not privy to any of the 'proof' in this situation, you're seemingly just assuming only weak evidence is all that's needed. For all we know there could have been an admission of guilt, because I have seen trolls do exactly that because they're cocky nothing will happen.

    So what do I think is likely? My years of having worked customer complaints and years of being an FC leader and dealing with cases of drama llama, there's a few problems that are easy to spot when somebody comes by to publicise a problem.

    1) The 'evidence' they provide either puts them in favour or somebody else in a bad light (or both)
    2) They present it in a manner that favours how they want you to see it.
    3) They omit information that could turn the whole situation on its head. So whilst everything you've been presented, could still be accurate, but in the way of tabloid journalism, what's been omitted could tell an entirely different story.
    4) They don't show or tell you the whole picture

    In customer complaints, I had the liberty of being able to gather evidence, particularly in listening to the calls they're complaining about.
    As an FC leader, I can approach the party and get their side of the story and if they followed my golden rule, they'd have logged /everything/.
    In this situation here? I doubt even if we got a hold of the GM in question of if they read this thread they'd be at liberty to disclose more info about a complaint because they may not be allowed to discuss actions taken against players aside from to the player in question. And possible there's legal issues for somebody representing a company to do that too (like GDPR or Data Protection).

    My option then? Take it with a pinch of salt. Accept it's possible that it's a fair representation, but also accept that it could be totally wrong. When the other party is not there to defend their side, I find it wholly unfair to simply take the one side we know.
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    Last edited by Saefinn; 02-19-2020 at 05:30 AM.

  2. #152
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    Be careful bard performers. I love you, but judging by this you might not be safe
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  3. #153
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    DBriggs304's Avatar
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    Fu Soya
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    Quote Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru View Post
    You seem to think there is one defination of annoying while sorry to break your little fantasy bubble life but it doesn't. What is called annoying is fully determined by a single persons view points or personality in which case if you the invidual find something annoying then MOVE TO A DIFFRENT SPOT OR BLACKLIST don't be a little snitch. I sware people who believe what you said really has no right to be on the internet at all.
    That is the most irrelevant word salad that I have read here in a while. There are NOT multiple definitions of annoying. You either are or you aren't. And OUR definitions of annoying dont mean one thing as SE determines what is and isnt...and they obviously determined this was.

    If people were asking them to stop and they continued or they were doing it excessively for an extended period of time for no other reason than to be annoying, no, I'm not moving. I'm not going to blacklist you as if that has anything to do with the visual effects and audio sounds, and sure as hell am NOT going into MY settings to turn off spell effects cause someone is being a jerk.

    But that person WILL eventually stop being annoying when they are reported. That is what the system is for. No one cares about the snitch BS. Since no one can grab the offender through the internet and make them stop, this is the tool to use for disruptive behavior. And no doubt, this did not occur from one report and willing to bet it was multiple people complaining.

    TLDR: Dont be a jerk and you'll be fine.
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  4. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Priya View Post
    Be careful bard performers. I love you, but judging by this you might not be safe
    I imagine it could be possible to also get a suspension using an instrument if you're just spamming noises to be annoying.

    While we're at it, can we add those Lala/miqo that sit around town spamming their most obnoxious sounding emotes to the suspension list?
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  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    That is the most irrelevant word salad that I have read here in a while. There are NOT multiple definitions of annoying. You either are or you aren't. And OUR definitions of annoying dont mean one thing as SE determines what is and isnt...and they obviously determined this was.

    If people were asking them to stop and they continued or they were doing it excessively for an extended period of time for no other reason than to be annoying, no, I'm not moving. I'm not going to blacklist you as if that has anything to do with the visual effects and audio sounds, and sure as hell am NOT going into MY settings to turn off spell effects cause someone is being a jerk.

    But that person WILL eventually stop being annoying when they are reported. That is what the system is for. No one cares about the snitch BS. Since no one can grab the offender through the internet and make them stop, this is the tool to use for disruptive behavior. And no doubt, this did not occur from one report and willing to bet it was multiple people complaining.

    TLDR: Dont be a jerk and you'll be fine.
    lol I love how you people simplefy everything like "jerk" is the only ones who get in trouble with a system like that hell most of the time I'm nice to people however if someone asked me to stop x thing I would be like to them 1 line only be like well why won't you move some were else this map is large you don't like it you can go elsewere. Also I've gotton in trouble many times over simple jokes and talking about subjects i rather enjoy which in those topics noone was insulted or anything it was just talking about for example axel x roxas or my opinion why human experimention should be legal and all that fun stuff all of which was never being a "jerk" in how you put it.

    Also yes there are many and it does effect it I don't find anything annoying unless u basicly stalk the person doing it every where they move to
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  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by Priya View Post
    Be careful bard performers. I love you, but judging by this you might not be safe
    I told you guys.... it's time to make a drinking game from this thread.
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  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    I told you guys.... it's time to make a drinking game from this thread.
    Please don't, your liver will hate you.
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  8. #158
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Fury take me! The mental gymnasts and whataboutists in here trying to justify being a nuisance...

    Quote Originally Posted by QooEr View Post
    even if you somehow argue that spamming holy was wrong, the punishment is too harsh. a warning would've sufficed
    SE tends to dole out punishment on an escalation system. Past offenses can cause future offenses to incur a harsher punishment than one might think is necessary. This dude getting a three day ban “just” for spamming means he either has a history or he pissed off a lot of people with his antics.
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  9. #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by Priya View Post
    Be careful bard performers. I love you, but judging by this you might not be safe
    Don't give me ideas...I'll be the Crumplebottom of my server.

    "Stop that ! I'll have you banned !"

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  10. #160
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    How dare they enforce their ToS! This would never happen in another mmo! True enough. That is why I am here.
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