Quote Originally Posted by Niyuka View Post
Wait a minute, you seriously claim Savage is for the "hardcore"? I raid casually, with casuals, all the time and we all got E4S clear weeks ago. And I am talking 2-4hrs per week playtime casuals, thats a LOT less than most "casuals" spend in their houses alone.

By that standard, I assume you consider EX trials hardcore content too?
Keep in mind. Even casual raiding in savage is still something some, more vocal and toxic members of the community, consider to be "beyond their scope of concern and care." Even raiding savage at all puts you above the majority of the playerbase that doesn't raid.