It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[Joven]

If what you're seeing on the screen is "me", then yes.

And that's why we'll never agree on that aspect of this discussion. You can't be for one form of choice while denying others.

To me that line reads more like deflecting, the bikini option has been around for a while the thing that's happening now is the men in wedding dresses option which lines up with the "It's time" title of the thread.

Next the op also frames anyone that reads their post this way as a "troglodyte" while almost defensively trying to deflect further by asserting that players wearing whatever they like breaks the "theme and feel" of a final fantasy game when really, particularly with the more modern installations, FF characters wear what suits them regardless of their role in the party.

That may be true for the OP, but what gives someone the right to judge everyone else based on that?

Let's be honest, this doesn't pan out.

What actually would happen is that the people complaining about stuff like men being able to wear skimpy clothes/dresses/etc will still complain, it's just in that situation they'd be complaining about how it's unfair that they "have to turn on the glamour block".

I think you misquoted there. It was Lauront who posted that, not me.

[Lauront]

Let's be honest, this doesn't pan out.

What actually would happen is that the people complaining about stuff like men being able to wear skimpy clothes/dresses/etc will still complain, it's just in that situation they'd be complaining about how it's unfair that they "have to turn on the glamour block".

They may certainly complain, e.g. that it's a waste of resources, but SE would have a ready out if they don't want to see it on their screen - use the block feature. Such complaints become a lot less tenable if someone won't go to that minimal level of effort, which can be applied to any block or blacklist feature.

For as long as such a feature does not exist, their complaints have a degree of merit, which SE itself acknowledges.

[Avidria]

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Yeah I gotta say, and this is a liiil off topic maybe, but I really wish they'd stop giving the female versions skirts instead of pants so often. Ofc I absolutely love the shorts 80 BRD gets, but still. A lot of the healer outfits in particular are really just a slot taken up for me because they look pretty eh with just about everything - the skirts don't even have a great shape to them, imo.

I still don't really feel strongly either way about having this kind of option to hide gear, but I'll also say again that people would probably end up surrounded by just as many 'silly' glamours purely because of everything being completely mismatched, and heavens know SE's resources seem to be tucked into a nice tight purse right now so idk if slapping everyone in job gear is even feasible for them at this point :P

[AriaEnia]

Oh now that I read this, I should try to tank with my string bikini and carbuncle slippers.

[SonKevin]

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What if they were to go back and design them so they are all truly gender neutral? We'll get rid of all of the women's versions of those items and keep them straight as the male version for every single one of them. That should solve your problem with this plan, right?

[Nedkel]

To me that line reads more like deflecting, the bikini option has been around for a while the thing that's happening now is the men in wedding dresses option which lines up with the "It's time" title of the thread.
Next the op also frames anyone that reads their post this way as a "troglodyte" while almost defensively trying to deflect further by asserting that players wearing whatever they like breaks the "theme and feel" of a final fantasy game when really, particularly with the more modern installations, FF characters wear what suits them regardless of their role in the party.

Some people having different tastes does not make them "troglodytes", its subjective and everyone likes and do not like different things, we have players from around the world and in some cultures a man wearing thongs or high heels is not appreciated to say the least.

[Sairys]

They may certainly complain, e.g. that it's a waste of resources, but SE would have a ready out if they don't want to see it on their screen - use the block feature. Such complaints become a lot less tenable if someone won't go to that minimal level of effort, which can be applied to any block or blacklist feature.

For as long as such a feature does not exist, their complaints have a degree of merit, which SE itself acknowledges.

SE is going to continue to have to moderate the options they add into the game. Whether or not people can disable them on their side is irrelevant.

Really, the end result of this particular argument is an increasing proportion of the playerbase disabling glamours which could reduce investment in them which may harm a revenue stream. So why is that in SE's best interests?

[Vahlnir]

SE is going to continue to have to moderate the options they add into the game. Whether or not people can disable them on their side is irrelevant.

Really, the end result of this particular argument is an increasing proportion of the playerbase disabling glamours which could reduce investment in them which may harm a revenue stream. So why is that in SE's best interests?

To be fair, the number of people who would actually use this feature would probably be relatively small, at least in my opinion. All of these "Show Your <insert race here>!" threads are all the proof I need. People like to show off their characters, period. In that respect alone I can't imagine them setting aside resources for it. Not to mention the extra server strain which it would inevitably cause, and we all know how much SE hates their server strain. It would probably be way more profitable to just keep churning out outfits and putting them on the Mogstation.

[Sairys]

Some people having different tastes does not make them "troglodytes", its subjective and everyone likes and do not like different things, we have players from around the world and in some cultures a man wearing thongs or high heels is not appreciated to say the least.

You may need to re-read, the people being accused of being troglodytes are those read the OP as complaining about men wearing dresses.

[Theodric]

SE is going to continue to have to moderate the options they add into the game. Whether or not people can disable them on their side is irrelevant.

Really, the end result of this particular argument is an increasing proportion of the playerbase disabling glamours which could reduce investment in them which may harm a revenue stream. So why is that in SE's best interests?

It wouldn't harm the revenue stream if it were implemented as a blacklist feature. Plenty of players would also still invest in glamour - as proven by other games that have implemented such filters. I dress my character the way I want for my sake, not anybody else so if someone were to add something I wore to the blacklist it wouldn't even register as a problem to me. Not that I'd likely know it was happening in the first place.