It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[TheGrimace]

MY IMMERSION!!!

[Vahlnir]

The concept of true immersion went out the window years ago. Would this "toggle" affect me? Probably not, no. But I also don't think it is necessary. I'm sure there are some who do, as this thread has made apparent. I'm just not one of them.

[Xanderlise]

I dont see what would be wrong with having that option. Doesnt affect anyone else.

[Theodric]

The game takes itself seriously enough for immersion to still matter. Most of the sillier stuff is locked away in specific side quests - in no small part due to the development team themselves having acknowledged that the likes of Hildibrand is not everybody's cup of tea. The MSQ's have a few lighthearted moments here and there but they ultimately take themselves seriously. As does...most of the game, in fact. The Brass Blades are dressed as Brass Blades. Garlean Soldiers are dressed as Garlean Soldiers. The Sekiseigumi have a specific outfit that they all wear throughout Kugane. Doman farmers/peasants also have a specific style that they adhere to.

The list goes on. Player characters are the exception to the rule. An optional toggle to allow for people to control their own view of the in-game world isn't hurting anyone and we've seen plenty of similar 'fluff' features added to the game by this point that there's definitely a precedent for such things.

[Penthea]

Most of the sillier stuff is locked away in specific side quests

While that is true a lot of actual combat gear looks very unsuitable for combat.

You could "unglam" everyone with the option OP wants to hide away a frog costume, only to find another player ends up being in a skimpy outfit (for example, all the gear you can get from Shisui) and they're a tank, but while glammed they look like a proper tank with plate armour.

[3c-33]

Is anyone else fed up with the so-called "single player instances" in the MSQ? I've always considered the MSQ a communal activity since this is an MMO. In ARR your MSQ filled with dungeons every few levels and there are very few single player instances. You also have to do them with other players. I'm very disturbed by the trend in FF14 that is turning this game into a single player game. One of the worst culprits is the Trust system that basically takes away the need to interact with people at all. Have we grown so narcissistic as a society that we must have the instances all to ourselves? Have we grown so narcissistic that we won't even entertain the option of playing with other people?

lol

No, I read it all. I just didn't feel like telling you that you're wrong on every little thing. :/

Very compelling.

Because having those pixels on my screen look different than you intended is a complete violation of your rights. *rolls eyes*

I'm a trans individual irl, and people get to decide how they view me both in front of me and behind my back. If they had it their way, they'd put on their fancy goggles and turn me into what they think I should look like, right? And it's no different here because it's just "pixels on a screen" and surely therefore has no possible reason to offend me right? Because when it's online everything is suddenly fine?

Part of why I play is so I can exist somewhere no one can reasonably impose their "standards" on me and now you expect me to put up with it because you can't handle the pixels on your screen that resemble a thong? Like, it's just pixels right dude lol, it's vital to my immersive gameplay experience.

Just because someone can call me so and so behind my back doesn't means it's okay just because I can't hear it, so why would I want someone to change their literal perception of me just because I can't see it? No, It's not fine, you don't get to choose what I look like for your own personal convenience reasons, you can run trusts or stop paying your sub if it bothers you that much that people exist in your mmo. Imagine how someone would look at you if you told them you want to remove all the bears in the woods so you can have a camping trip.

Self Expression. This removes no self expression other than needing to know that absolutely everyone has to "experience" your particular expression if you're in their party or on their screen.

Here we go again.

[Corfish]

Ya know, I see one of the excuses is that people's glams don't fit the aesthetics of their jobs, but like... Since when have they ever in Final Fantasy? You got Lulu, a woman who is supposed to be protecting her summoner going into combat with a belt dress that destroys her ability to move (and ironically had probably the highest evasion). Tidus, a sports star turned warrior who continues to wear his sports outfits (throw in Wakka in there too while you're at it). Any female character from FF 2 - 6 wearing leotards, including Celes, a magic knight who should probably have more armor than some pauldrons. 6 also has a yeti as a playable character. Literally no one in 7 wears actual armor. 8 is about a class of military students who wear their uniforms for like 1/10 of the game, and then they're just in casual wear for the rest of it, Selphie going as far as wearing just a sundress. 9 is probably the most consistent at keeping with reasonable designs for the characters, but like it also has Quina so ya know. 12 has Vaan just flaunting his abs the entire game, and Fran wearing basically nothing.

They all fit their own PERSONAL aesthetics, rather than their jobs. Characters are more than the jobs they rep.

Anyways, there is a lot of precedence for silly looking, or casual looking characters. This excuse that they need to fit a certain aesthetic to be "Final Fantasy" is only paying attention to the ones who strictly look like their roles.

[Krotoan]

Here we go again.

Please explain why I HAVE to see the choices you've made for yourself and how my not wanting to see these choices limits your own creativity and expression.

[Theodric]

I'm a trans individual irl

...and I'm a gay guy. Not that it particularly matters, since even if I consider my character to also be a partial reflection of myself in the fact that he, too, is gay...

It's a private matter irrelevant to people who do not know me. I wouldn't care at all if my glamour was replaced on somebody else's screen. It wouldn't be a personal attack upon my identity or sexuality.

[Zabuza]

No, It's not fine, you don't get to choose what I look like for your own personal convenience reasons, you can run trusts or stop paying your sub if it bothers you that much that people exist in your mmo. Imagine how someone would look at you if you told them you want to remove all the bears in the woods so you can have a camping trip.

This comparison is not equivalent to what is going on here. A more apt comparison would be if you asked someone if they could make all the bears look like humans in their eyes. Pretty sure the bears would not care in that situation. I really can't understand why this upsets you, as I would not even care if I looked like a naked male Mi'qote on someone else's screen. For me, I take issue with the fact that the people on your side wish to restrict the choice of other people on something that would do no harm to anyone.