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  1. #1261
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    Given most of the objection folks seem to have to glamours is being subjected to them in dungeon runs, trials, and raids, I feel like this wouldn't address the root issue.

    And I would not want to heal a dungeon run where I couldn't even perceive the tank's existence (save as a health bar in the party list). Nor would I want to be the tank in a party where the healer could not see me.
    No, I mean just the cut scenes (CS) to preserve immersion. Not during gameplay, that would be unchanged.
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  2. #1262
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohl View Post
    It the spirit of compromise; you know what option I would be like mostly ok with (51%)?
    The option to be alone in your own CS. No other players with their glams turned off, just your PC and whatever NPCs need to be there.
    How is that compromise? Why do you want to dictate why I or others choose to look at or not look at?
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    Last edited by CelestePinke; 02-22-2020 at 08:36 AM. Reason: Addition

  3. #1263
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestePinke View Post
    How is that compromise? Why do you want to dictate why I or others choose to look at or not look at?
    If people are complaining about story immersion, then having characters that break it for them not present in cut scenes could watch them without their sensibilities being affronted.
    People who do not their character altered against their wishes will not be altered because they will not be displayed.
    Is it a perfect compromise? Hell no.
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  4. #1264
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohl View Post
    If people are complaining about story immersion, then having characters that break it for them not present in cut scenes could watch them without their sensibilities being affronted.
    People who do not their character altered against their wishes will not be altered because they will not be displayed.
    Is it a perfect compromise? Hell no.
    I DON'T care what your character looks like. What is so hard for you to understand? Nor do I care what you think about my character. I want to be the only character in pink and I don't want to see your character wearing what mine is.
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  5. #1265
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestePinke View Post
    I DON\\'T care what your character looks like. What is so hard for you to understand? Nor do I care what you think about my character. I want to be the only character in pink and I don\\'t want to see your character wearing what mine is.
    I think I missed your initial comments that would have provided more context to your question and objection...
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  6. #1266
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    It's nice to see this thread is still going, it would have been sad to lose something so entertaining. Keep it up.
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  7. #1267
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestePinke View Post
    I DON'T care what your character looks like. What is so hard for you to understand? Nor do I care what you think about my character. I want to be the only character in pink and I don't want to see your character wearing what mine is.
    For a minute there I thought this was an MMO. Thank you for clarifying this important stance <3
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  8. #1268
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    For a minute there I thought this was an MMO. Thank you for clarifying this important stance <3
    Glad to help. /pat
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestePinke View Post
    Glad to help. /pat
    You shouldn't touch people without consent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

  10. #1270
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    Immersion and world building are not the same thing.

    Glamours are a part of the world building.

    Interacting with glamours is immersion.

    You can try to have your story be one without glamours and be immersed in it however this only last up to the Slyphs, where glamours are front and center as part of the msq meaning your story has glamours acknowledged from here on out, meaning immersion of no glamours falls flat after this point as they are 100% apart of your story and the world.

    So muh immersion is a very bad excuse for this feature.

    You are better off just getting up and moving away from anything that bothers you and anything in instances vote kick is there, difference in playstyle is valid reasoning just saying
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