It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[Penthea]

I wish I had this much control over my mind, being able to control how you react to everything you see, focus your attention on exactly what you want. Gonna need couple of silent retreats to reach that stage of concentration.

If someone's outfit in a game makes you unable to control yourself then you got some serious problems.

[Sairys]

I wish I had this much control over my mind, being able to control how you react to everything you see, focus your attention on exactly what you want. Gonna need couple of silent retreats to reach that stage of concentration.

Perhaps you need practice, may I suggest doing so by partying up with people whose glamours you don't like?

[SamRF]

Perhaps you need practice, may I suggest doing so by partying up with people whose glamours you don't like?

If someone's outfit in a game makes you unable to control yourself then you got some serious problems.

It doesn't bother me that much. But I'm not going to pretend like I can ignore something that is right in front of me and might be distracting (instance for example). Actually I'm sure there are OCD people who might have even more trouble diverting their attention, it can become a "don't think of a white bear" situation (look up ironic process theory). There's also those with porn addiction who get triggered, although I'd say this game isn't the best one to play in that case cause there's a fair amount of revealing npc's.

Doesn't take away the fact that it would be nice to have the option to either hide glamour or change everyones/someones outfit to something basic (latter probably the better option). Gives more choice and tolerance to those that wish to use it for whatever reason, so they may enjoy the game like everyone else. If the existence of this option reduces your enjoyment, then you're having some unhealthy values for a game imo.

[Penthea]

It doesn't bother me that much. But I'm not going to pretend like I can ignore something that is right in front of me and might be distracting (instance for example). Actually I'm sure there are OCD people who might have even more trouble diverting their attention, it can become a "don't think of a white bear" situation (look up ironic process theory). There's also those with porn addiction who get triggered, although I'd say this game isn't the best one to play in that case cause there's a fair amount of revealing npc's.

So now you're bringing mental issues into the argument as well. My goodness you guys are trying literally everything.

As someone who suffers from mental issues, I don't expect any game to cater to them. It is my responsibility to manage my mental health, not SE's.

And no don't start comparing this to having impaired vision or hearing just because there are options in games to help with that sort of thing. Those are often not conditions that can be managed with therapy. Mental illness is.

so they may enjoy the game like everyone else.

You're not enjoying the game like everyone else does if you're one of the few who unglam those around you.

If the existence of this option reduces your enjoyment, then you're having some unhealthy values for a game imo.

And trying to make players appear more like npcs is healthy for a mmorpg?

As long as the option doesn't put players in skimpy outfits they didn't choose, I'd tolerate unglamming. But that doesn't mean I'll pretend that I think it's a good thing for the game. I frankly think it's damn weird that someone wants to play a mmorpg but wants to strip away one of the most defining things about the genre. It's like going to a rock band concert and complaining that you have to listen to a guitarist.

[xJimmehx]

I think a great compromise would be to allow players the option to disable glamours of other PCs, Friends, and/or Party members, etc., While also allowing us to finally wear whatever we want. As someone else pointed out, being able to disable glamour or defaulting a person or group of people to wear something like AF gear would nullify the excuse of "We don't want to confuse players by allowing people to dress in gear that doesn't identify with the job they are playing."

To be honest though. Viera and Hrothgar need glamours and hairs first, imo. Unless this takes very little time to implement. (like, 15 minutes of coding)

[SinisterJoints]

for QoL, sure. Do I hate the same stuff? Yea... I find the ones that run around dressed like clowns are either kids or immature adults (also kids lol) It's annoying.

Do I care enough to get mad about it, nah not really lol

[Packetdancer]

If someones that keen on bullying you, they can use mods or just create a new character with your face, get it half-naked and take a screenshot. No random is going to do that let's be realistic..

Yes, but I feel there's at least some degree of difference between "I broke ToS and modified the game data in order to take nude shots" and "SquareEnix gave me a button to that can potentially remove people's pants." The latter has a considerably lower barrier to entry, and also sort of gives the impression that SquareEnix might actually condone the behavior.

More to the point: if there ever is an option to disable glams, for the love of everything Holy (Holy Holy Holy Assize Holy Holy— er, sorry, been in too many roulettes tonight), make it just globally disable all glamours save for weaponry, put everyone in their current job's AF1 gear—which will generally be something at least in the neighborhood of the 'iconic' franchise costume for the job—and be done with it. Having a 'glamour blacklist' to be checked when loading in resources is one more needless bit of complexity the poor game engine probably doesn't really need to glue on to a critical code path in an already-aging codebase; doing it globally is almost assuredly easier to code (and test), and also means no one can complain that it's something personal and targeted. And having literally everyone in the game in their current job's iconic gear is as thematic and immersive to the franchise as you can possibly make it, which should please all the folks arguing for this feature for the sake of immersion.

And doing it that way also has no chance of de-glamming, say, YoRHa leg gear and randomly leaving someone wandering around a dungeon in what amounts to underwear and a garter belt. Because, again: I really like my pants. Please let me keep them. The Twelve know female healers get precious few pants as it is, so we must treasure those we do get, giving them a place of honor in our glamour dresser or constantly revisiting them via glamour prism, and generally treasuring them to a point just short of acting like Gollum with the One Ring.

#GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HaurchefantWouldWantIt #SlacksBetterSuitAHero #WhyAmIStillMakingHashtags #IShouldBeSleeping

[Bongaboi]

So now that we have female characters tanking in string bikini's and now men in wedding dresses, it's time to adopt an option a lot of other games have: Hide Glamour. Naturally troglodyte are going to assume it's because of the men in dresses. It's actually because it's breaks the theme and feel of it being a final fantasy game. Tanks should wear plate, healers should wear robes, and no one should be in a fight seriously wearing carbuncle slippers and lingerie.

I don't propose a limit to glamour, I just want to be able to turn off other players glamours displaying on my client. That way they can "Express" themselves all they want, and I don't have to suffer another topless male in a thong.

I counter-propose....

Increasing the glamour dresser to 1,000 slots!

[Packetdancer]

I counter-propose....

Increasing the glamour dresser to 1,000 slots!

I mean, wildly unrelated to the thread topic, but also emphatically co-signed. Immediately and with zero hesitation. (Please let me clear out the retainer inventory full of things that didn't fit into the glamour dresser...)

[Bongaboi]

it has to be because they have some deep resentment for gay/trans/ETC people right?

SE is progressive. It's not conservative. I am fine with this.