It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[Krotoan]

I'm just saying what's wrong with both having the choice? It's kindof unfair that one side gets to do something while the other one has no say on the matter. I think it'll be the only way to do it without breaking the playerbase into a mad tissy. Beside what would be wrong with the option? Maybe because I don't care either way I don't see it in a bad light. I feel like if people get that option to block glams then other people should know, so either an icon or something so other people have a choice too. Again, from the outburst of this thread there's clearly people on both sides, so lets make them both happy instead of just one side. Tho honestly this thread proves why this will never be a thing anyway so all we're doing is going back and fourth with no middle being reached. On that front... I'm hungry? Pizza?

The problem being your solution makes one side happy and the other side VERY unhappy and provides a target for that unhappiness. People have expressed a LOT of concern with knowing that people were blocking them as in just thinking about the possibility was distressing. My proposition to allow people to filter out glamour/gear normalizers as partymembers would give them the option to avoid a potentially distressing situation for them. There is no reason to enable targeting for harassment like that.

Just because the topic is a hot button doesn't mean it's impossible to work out.. but people will need to discuss rather than react with emotion and outrage. We've actually made a few inches of progress toward an "acceptable" system so far that I have read and participated in:


People don't want their character in another glamour than they've chosen (or in screenshots) : Solution make the toggle use a generic race/gender/job placeholder and possibly a stand in name (initials or randomly generated name)

People don't want others to show them in mismatched outfits or skimpy outfits: Solution use level appropriate AF or carefully cultivated replacement job sets.

People don't like the idea of being replaced at all : solution, add them to a sort of blacklist where the characters will not interact in anyway, both will be invisible to each other and unable to interact or be matched in parties.



In the myriad arguments over whether it's canon or lore or bigoted or intolerant there have been actual solutions that both sides find acceptable proposed.



I unfortunately am starting to get tubby, so I'm gonna need to lay off pizza for a while. It's broccoli and lean steak for me tonight.

[Theodric]

Why are people ignoring the fact that players can literally filter out the characters that they do not wish to see/interact with? It's not supporting their argument at all - if anything, it's reinforcing the idea that there should be more filters in place.

[Kohl]

They don't. IRL they get arrested in the US for indecent exposure. Why would the police do that if they were 'just trying to express themselves'?

That’s not different than a non-nudist, though. And there are spaces for them and anyone else to be nude. Just like there is a space for glamours; it’s called Final Fantasy 14

[Krotoan]

Just like there is a space for glamours; it’s called Final Fantasy 14

and "your own computer"

[Kobalos]

If all it takes is a cat girl in a bikini or a hrothgar in a dress to anoy you you need to get out more...Its a game folks are being way too precious...

[Theodric]

If all it takes is a cat girl in a bikini or a hrothgar in a dress to anoy you you need to get out more...Its a game folks are being way too precious...

Both are pretty boring to look at, in my opinion. I've found that quite often the players most eager to show off their characters tend to design them in a way that just isn't conventionally attractive at all. Just tacky.

[SturmChurro]

Both are pretty boring to look at, in my opinion. I've found that quite often the players most eager to show off their characters tend to design them in a way that just isn't conventionally attractive at all. Just tacky.

That's cause most people don't have a fashion sense, and don't know how to match gear.

[Kobalos]

Both are pretty boring to look at, in my opinion. I've found that quite often the players most eager to show off their characters tend to design them in a way that just isn't conventionally attractive at all. Just tacky.

Eh, live and let live I say. I man both Fran and Kuja wore revealing and rather ridiculous outfits not like its anything new in FF. But aye I am deffo a fan of the more thought out glam rather then the skimpy ones but I wouldn't go as far and wanting to hide how other characters look. OP is entitled to their opinion but I do think folks are being a little silly about the whole thing. The only issue I have with blokes wearing dresses is that the bridesmaids dress is hideous it looks awful on anyone XD

[CelestePinke]

To those claiming individuality and freedom of expression, I counter with I don't want others wearing what I'm wearing. Its not individuality if hundreds of others look like you.

[Kohl]

and "your own computer"

Yes, the part of your own computer that isn’t running the intellectual property of a company you have access to through a subscription that is contingent on agreement to a TOS.
True.