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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    Find yourself a few people you can comfortably run dungeons with than running with DF groups in that case.

    When they ignore you, don't push the issue and cause unnecessary drama. No one wants to argue in dungeons, because it's too stressful to deal with most of the time.

    Bite down and just comply. Or remove the tank.
    Good point. I guess this post is a semi-rant. I just don't get this etiquette players seem to praise in this game for what is right or wrong when you are obviously maxing effeciency. Especially as healer, cause it's your job in the end to deal with irregularities.
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    its cuz people cant let go of dumb conventions that literally do not matter. some dungeons can be cleared without a tank
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    Good point. I guess this post is a semi-rant. I just don't get this etiquette players seem to praise in this game for what is right or wrong when you are obviously maxing effeciency. Especially as healer, cause it's your job in the end to deal with irregularities.
    Lots of people have no interest in maxing efficiency. When I run a dungeon, what I want to max is ease of the run. Which means small pulls whenever possible, and killing each group before moving on to the next. If this means that nobody is ever in any real danger and healers have to do almost no healing, then this is a GOOD thing.
    If it means the run takes a minute or two longer than it could have, then that is fine. Nobody should be in that much of a hurry anyway in a game.

    If you want to pull extra, then either clear it with the tank beforehand, or be prepared to tank them yourself.
    Pulling extra mobs and assuming the tank will pick them up, that is just rude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Lots of people have no interest in maxing efficiency. When I run a dungeon, what I want to max is ease of the run. Which means small pulls whenever possible, and killing each group before moving on to the next. If this means that nobody is ever in any real danger and healers have to do almost no healing, then this is a GOOD thing.
    If it means the run takes a minute or two longer than it could have, then that is fine. Nobody should be in that much of a hurry anyway in a game.

    If you want to pull extra, then either clear it with the tank beforehand, or be prepared to tank them yourself.
    Pulling extra mobs and assuming the tank will pick them up, that is just rude.
    As healer I'm prepared to take 100% responsibility for what happens. I'm talking about cases where tank is barely taking damage. I'm also totally prepared to take the damage, otherwise I wouldn't risk it. There's no reason to get upset imo, I still don't see it. Especially because you don't have to deal with the consequences if things go bad, the healer can handle it. You see where I'm coming from? My only complaint is the fact that people get upset in chat. If you don't want to worry and want to stay relaxed or something by keeping pulls small, then go ahead and play that way as if the prepulled mobs don't exist, it wouldn't matter.
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Lots of people have no interest in maxing efficiency. When I run a dungeon, what I want to max is ease of the run. Which means small pulls whenever possible, and killing each group before moving on to the next. If this means that nobody is ever in any real danger and healers have to do almost no healing, then this is a GOOD thing.
    If it means the run takes a minute or two longer than it could have, then that is fine. Nobody should be in that much of a hurry anyway in a game.

    If you want to pull extra, then either clear it with the tank beforehand, or be prepared to tank them yourself.
    Pulling extra mobs and assuming the tank will pick them up, that is just rude.
    I can only speak for myself, but my not having to heal isn't a good thing. It's incredibly boring to the point I'll likely take the penalty. Small pulls do so little damage you could be a 100 ilvls below the dungeon and I'd still be able to keep you up without ever touching a GCD. This means I'm doing literally nothing but spamming Holy. I want to heal hence why big pulls are preferred. I actually get to feel like a healer and not a gimped DPS.
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    Yuji Kiritani
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    Good point. I guess this post is a semi-rant. I just don't get this etiquette players seem to praise in this game for what is right or wrong when you are obviously maxing effeciency. Especially as healer, cause it's your job in the end to deal with irregularities.
    You can't force your own efficiency on everyone else. We are all different. We all go our own pace. If your tank is not pulling everything and you [as a healer] pull the rest and the tank leaves you to die, you are only slowing down EVERYONE's efficiency and wasting more time.

    This is not a solo game. This is an MMORPG. If you aren't willing to work with other people [read: pugs], perhaps you should re-evaluate your priorities here. (i.e. find a group of friends to run content with and not pug them.)

    Edit: The fact that you've admitted to doing this when you're bored makes this situation even worse.
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    Last edited by Centershock; 02-15-2020 at 07:17 AM. Reason: addendum