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    Ryaz's Avatar
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100

    Goodbye Ingenuity

    Well, that's how they're making the recipes harder. Removing Ingenuity as a skill.

    Inner Quiet got a buff allowing it to exceed 3,000.

    Innovation got split into Innovation and Veneration. Boosting Touch and Synth skills repsectively by 50%. Wonder if the costs have changed.

    Groundwork added- basically Preparatory Touch for Synth. Need to have a certain durability to get full effectiveness. Basically Rapid Synth III returned to the game.

    No more Reuse.
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    Nandrolone's Avatar
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    Kyara Nemura
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    Raiden
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Removing ingenuity is hardly a challenge. Unless delicate synthesis and prudent touch get nerfed (they won’t), then it’ll be easy.
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I honestly hate that even more crafting skills are being removed and changed. I'm thinking fo really dropping crafting altogether now.
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    Cleanse's Avatar
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    Marshal Renew
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    I honestly hate that even more crafting skills are being removed and changed. I'm thinking fo really dropping crafting altogether now.
    No need to do that. Keeping your DoH/L leveled up to max is beneficial or at least a QoL boon.
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cleanse View Post
    No need to do that. Keeping your DoH/L leveled up to max is beneficial or at least a QoL boon.
    Goodn thing that stopping playing a class doesn't suddenly delevel it then.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    Goodn thing that stopping playing a class doesn't suddenly delevel it then.
    If the relatively minor changes we're getting to actions is enough to make you stop crafting, I'm really surprised you're playing this game at all. The revamps to combat jobs have been more extreme than the relatively minor changes we've had with crafting.
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    Tlamila's Avatar
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    If the relatively minor changes we're getting to actions is enough to make you stop crafting, I'm really surprised you're playing this game at all. The revamps to combat jobs have been more extreme than the relatively minor changes we've had with crafting.
    It's easy. If they change a class in a way you don't like it anymore, you just put that one class aside and play another, since all combat classes changes are different.
    All crafting classes share the same skills, so it's pretty different.
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The revamps to combat jobs have been more extreme than the relatively minor changes we've had with crafting.
    Are we playing the same game?

    Almost half the entire toolkit has been deleted, exp pretty much tripled, materia rains from sky, rotations massively simplified. It's a fairly major rehaul overall.
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    Goodn thing that stopping playing a class doesn't suddenly delevel it then.
    When I said, "Keeping your DoH/L leveled up to max is beneficial", I meant from expansion to expansion. It's worth leveling and moderately gearing up for the quality of life perks, the ability to help out a friend, learn about economies, etc.

    If anything, it may end up making crafting less of a time sink (I'm not going to be assuming anything until patch day - that just leads to pointless babble).
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