Goodbye Ingenuity

[Ryaz]

Well, that's how they're making the recipes harder. Removing Ingenuity as a skill.

Inner Quiet got a buff allowing it to exceed 3,000.

Innovation got split into Innovation and Veneration. Boosting Touch and Synth skills repsectively by 50%. Wonder if the costs have changed.

Groundwork added- basically Preparatory Touch for Synth. Need to have a certain durability to get full effectiveness. Basically Rapid Synth III returned to the game.

No more Reuse.

[Nandrolone]

Removing ingenuity is hardly a challenge. Unless delicate synthesis and prudent touch get nerfed (they won’t), then it’ll be easy.

[Tlamila]

I honestly hate that even more crafting skills are being removed and changed. I'm thinking fo really dropping crafting altogether now.

[Espritduo]

The massive buff to Innovation, the removal of the 3000 Control buff cap, as well as the change to the difficulty penalty for doing higher level recipes (which is what starred recipes are) and the reduction of quality requirements across the board will likely make crafting significantly easier than before. Ingenuity wasn't removed so much as its underlying reason for existing was nerfed (lowering recipe levels) and its effects rolled into Innovation/Veneration. Just more simplifying of the crafting system, for better or worse.

[Ryaz]

The massive buff to Innovation, the removal of the 3000 Control buff cap, as well as the change to the difficulty penalty for doing higher level recipes (which is what starred recipes are) and the reduction of quality requirements across the board will likely make crafting significantly easier than before. Ingenuity wasn't removed so much as its underlying reason for existing was nerfed (lowering recipe levels) and its effects rolled into Innovation/Veneration. Just more simplifying of the crafting system, for better or worse.

I didn't notice that they lowered the difficulty on higher level recipes. Ok, so it definitely won't be that bad. Really surprised they did that, though. I wonder what kind of mechanics the Ishgard recipes will have to actually make us have to think about what we're crafting. It would have to be significant to make them difficult and more than just increasing difficulty to unreachable levels.

[Kytrin]

I didn't notice that they lowered the difficulty on higher level recipes. Ok, so it definitely won't be that bad. Really surprised they did that, though. I wonder what kind of mechanics the Ishgard recipes will have to actually make us have to think about what we're crafting. It would have to be significant to make them difficult and more than just increasing difficulty to unreachable levels.

We'll have to see of course, but my personal theory is that we'll be crafting less for brute force completion, and more for getting certain conditions to proc. Once they proc then we use the relevant skill to complete quality or synthesis. Or perhaps the proc itself does something. That's honestly the only reason I can think of for them to add more conditions besides poor, normal, good, and excellent.

[Cleanse]

I honestly hate that even more crafting skills are being removed and changed. I'm thinking fo really dropping crafting altogether now.

No need to do that. Keeping your DoH/L leveled up to max is beneficial or at least a QoL boon.

[Liam_Harper]

Certainly looks like it'll be even easier now.

"Due to changes to the crafting system, the required progress and maximum quality of certain recipes have been reduced."
"It is now easier to increase progress and quality for recipes higher than your current level"

Basically it seems the removal of Ingenuity is being fully accounted for. Add to that an uncapped Inner Quiet (this is an insane buff) and a buffed Innovation and we could end up seeing much higher Quality increases.
I cap around 5591 Control with max Inner Quiet and NQ vendor food. After the patch, I'll reach 7771 with max Inner Quiet, plus a 50% Innovation boost. This makes something like Great Strides -> Innovation -> Prep Touch -> Great Strides -> Brygots, look rather crazy.

[Nandrolone]

Certainly looks like it'll be even easier now.



Basically it seems the removal of Ingenuity is being fully accounted for. Add to that an uncapped Inner Quiet (this is an insane buff) and a buffed Innovation and we could end up seeing much higher Quality increases.
I cap around 5591 Control with max Inner Quiet and NQ vendor food. After the patch, I'll reach 7771 with max Inner Quiet, plus a 50% Innovation boost. This makes something like Great Strides -> Innovation -> Prep Touch -> Great Strides -> Brygots, look rather crazy.

https://imgur.com/a/jvf9mb0

[Tlamila]

No need to do that. Keeping your DoH/L leveled up to max is beneficial or at least a QoL boon.

Goodn thing that stopping playing a class doesn't suddenly delevel it then.