Trying to explain with logic to someone whose arguement was created without any logic doesnt want unfortunatelyEven veteran players make mistakes, you are not making any sense...you realize that right?
I raid savage and even I get hit by random aoes sometimes or forget a mechanic and get hit or die. It doesn't mean I don't know the mechanics normally, but distractions happen, forgetfulness happens, mistakes happen.
If I get hit by a ground AoE does it mean I don't know how to dodge it as a veteran player? No, it just means I was distracted, or I just plain messed up, or I lagged. Plenty of reasons for even veteran players to make mistakes for even simple mechanics. People mess up because we are human and humans are fallible.
Go watch some savage or ultimate videos clears and prog. You'll see even the people doing the hardest content sometimes get hit by things or die by their own mistakes for a lot of different reasons.
Perfection doesn't exist. For anyone. Veteran player or not.
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