Stop Gating The MSQ By A GOd-Aweful Dungeon Grind :(

[Pintsized]

So having come back to the game last November I finally got a character through the 5.0 MSQ and proceeded to hit a brick wall: the first 5.1 dungeon with it's asinine iLevel gate of 430!

The last 5.0 dungeon's gate was 410 and wasn't a problem since the MSQ chain had gradually provided gear sufficient to be able to enter Amaurot.

But even after getting the 430 gear from the Role quest completion the bling levels are still terrible, meaning my Bard's iLevel was less than 420. The only way to unlock the 430 gate for the Grand Cosmos was to grind umpteen Amaurots, etc. to get enough bling or else buy 450 crafted gear; I did this, it cost me nigh on 1m gil simply for the bling and a waist item to reach 430.

What the hell is a new player supposed to do here? I have a few million gil from playing since 2010, without that I'd have packed in the game as I have zero intention of spending weeks in dungeons grinding gear or tokens to unlock STORY CONTENT!

Of course, 5.2 no doubt will increase the gate to 440, or God forbid 450, putting the MSQ even more out of reach for those who don't want to spend all their time in dungeons!

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Run some roulettes at max level, get tomes, buy gear with tomes. Gearing in this game is incredibly easy.

[Pintsized]

Run some roulettes at max level, get tomes, buy gear with tomes. Gearing in this game is incredibly easy.

You describe the problem perfectly: gear grinds may or may not be 'easy', they're tedious for many with limited time to play and many other things they find FUN to do, and have no place in the main story progression which is where many of us prefer to spend our time rather than endlessly running the same dungeons simply in order to progress that story!

Either remove this God-aweful gating in the MSQ or stop the MSQ gating so much other stuff .. you know, like the ability to actually play the next expansion!

The other aspect this affects is the ability to play multiple jobs, you need to grind for each JOB you want to play (there's absolutely NO REASON story content in 5.1 should be 20+ iLevels above 5.0) which makes the game's core concept 'one character, all classes' a joke when it actively prevents you doing this unless you're prepared to run the gear grinds multiple times.

[LaylaTsarra]

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I'm curious why your main class is Arcanist at level 70? Did you not take the time to get a job stone?

[Arillyn]

I'm curious why your main class is Arcanist at level 70? Did you not take the time to get a job stone?

His highest are actually scholar and smn. He got the job stones it just isn't registering on the forums. Mine registers as Thaumaturge and I just haven't bothered to fix it.

[DPZ2]

I'm curious why your main class is Arcanist at level 70? Did you not take the time to get a job stone?

The FORUMS will use the same class you joined with. Forever. You have to manually go in and change from Class to Job in your profile.

Just letting you know that your attempt at snark was grossly misplaced.

[Vidu]

You describe the problem perfectly: gear grinds may or may not be 'easy', they're tedious for many with limited time to play and many other things they find FUN to do, and have no place in the main story progression which is where many of us prefer to spend our time rather than endlessly running the same dungeons simply in order to progress that story!

Either remove this God-aweful gating in the MSQ or stop the MSQ gating so much other stuff .. you know, like the ability to actually play the next expansion!

The other aspect this affects is the ability to play multiple jobs, you need to grind for each JOB you want to play (there's absolutely NO REASON story content in 5.1 should be 20+ iLevels above 5.0) which makes the game's core concept 'one character, all classes' a joke when it actively prevents you doing this unless you're prepared to run the gear grinds multiple times.

You're exaggerating greatly here - its not "endless dungeon running" - the game makes it very easy to gear up with roulettes giving you a neat bonus on both kind of tomestones when done at max-level. Seeing how a lot of things are also aimed to be done once a day (roulettes) or once a week (loot-lockouts on various raids) you're not entering into an endless grind but rather into playing 20 minutes a day to do your expert roulette at minimum. And even that is probably only needed for about a week, specially if paired with some other ways to get gear.

And as I explained: Many of us also prefer to play through dungeons with people who are appropriatly geared. Considering how easy and not really time consuming it is to do that, its not even to much to ask.
You also sound like you'd want to skip the current MSQ to play the next one, with finishing the story beforehand...? I'm confused now - do you care about the story or not?

And in regards to playing multiple jobs... you have the time to enter the endless grind of leveling up more than one job through quests and dungeon-runs (mainly dungeon runs, lets be honest here), but you dont have the time to get some gear by doing some dungeon-runs once you reach max-level...?

[Pepsi_Plunge]

You describe the problem perfectly: gear grinds may or may not be 'easy', they're tedious for many with limited time to play and many other things they find FUN to do, and have no place in the main story progression which is where many of us prefer to spend our time rather than endlessly running the same dungeons simply in order to progress that story!

You still don't get it: You don't need to grind for ilevel430. Just doing the Eden Raids ONCE and picking the accessories will gear you up with ilevel 450 gear on the right side and/or a belt. And you can farm tomestones just by hunting or other daily things

[SamSmoot]

It may be an issue with running through the whole MSQ in one run. For players who started from the beginning, you'd get a new expansion or patch with a new set of dungeons and raid, then nothing for many months. Everyone just geared up running the existing content until the next patch, and by that time you were geared enough to run the 430 dungeon.

If you just blow through the whole MSQ, you don't have the gearing up mid-patch phases. The gear you get from the MSQ just equips you for that patch's content, and not the next one.

[SturmChurro]

I don't remember ever being locked out of a dungeon in ShadowBringers. Odd.

Oh wait, you are rushing through the story for the patch right? A new player needs to get the gear like everyone else did. By doing the dungeons, expert, and everything in-between.