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  1. #11
    Player
    Avatar de Derio
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    juin 2015
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    Derio Uzumaki
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Chevalier noir Lv 100
    They cant make it to where you always have it on because you cannot shirk a tank who is not in your party so imagine how Alliance raids would go with 3 tanks fighting over aggro.
    (3)

  2. #12
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    Avatar de TheMightyMollusk
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    mai 2018
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    Iyami Galvayra
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par Derio Voir le message
    They cant make it to where you always have it on because you cannot shirk a tank who is not in your party so imagine how Alliance raids would go with 3 tanks fighting over aggro.
    The same as now, but with an excuse?
    (4)

  3. #13
    Player
    Avatar de Xtrasweettea
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    novembre 2014
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Aelda Schuvorther
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Guerrier Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Pintsized Voir le message
    A friend of mine who started playing in the autumn when I returned after taking a break at the end of Heavens Ward has found several times times in the early leveling dungeons that tanks at sync level aren't using their emnity boost skill (Iron Will, Defiance, etc.) even after being asked more than once, or sometimes they turn it on the off again.

    He just left a party as healer because emnity was all over the place and healing a nightmare due to the tank refusing to use Defiance. This was in Tam-Tara but he's had as high as Halatali at least.

    I've not done any low dungeons for a long time so haven't see it myself. Apart from being a jerk, is there any valid reason for this, it certainly wasn't a 'thing' when I was playing last time.
    It could be for any reason. From my personal experience as a tank, it is from syncing down and forgetting it gets removed.

    This isn't a really big trend and as your friend goes throughout the game and goes through dungeons multiple times, they will almost never run into it again. Maybe once or twice more.
    (2)

  4. #14
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    Avatar de Tohe-Spidhire
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    aot 2018
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    92
    Character
    Tohe Spidhire
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Érudit Lv 58
    Citation Envoyé par EpicOverlord85 Voir le message
    That wouldn’t work sadly, it would cause multi tank fights to digress into constant aggro dancing due to both tanks not being able to stop generating threat towards the target. I guess it might work if they retooled shirk and and gave it a smaller cool down, but I think it works pretty well as is.
    Naw, just change Shirk to "Trade Places," allowing the MT to shift their currently aggro'd targets to the OT, and vice-versa.
    (0)

  5. #15
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    Avatar de hobostew
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    aot 2013
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Astrid Arkwright
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Moine Lv 90
    I've seen some newbies confused about how it works or by people calling it by the wrong name but that was easily remedied by a quick explanation. I don't think either situation is remotely common enough to be a widespread issue though.
    (1)

  6. #16
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    Avatar de SturmChurro
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    fvrier 2017
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    Character
    Sturm Churro
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    Mage blanc Lv 100
    "Alright guys, here's how it works. You click it." Boom.
    (0)
    WHM | RDM | DNC

  7. #17
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    Avatar de Nedkel
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    Chloe Lehideux
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 74
    Its understandable if the tanks are newer players, but i have seen tanks with old account who were not using their tank stance.
    I have met few tanks like these in MSQ, they were not a sprouts, when asked they turned it on for a while then turned it off making run an unbearable and slow mess.
    We should be able to report these players who intentionally refuse to commit their role and troll entire team.
    (0)

  8. #18
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    Avatar de Maero
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    septembre 2013
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    Gridania
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    Character
    I'shtola Maqa
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Danseur Lv 90
    I can account for the single time i turned it off but was by accident, my action bar did not toggle when i pressed. At least i noticed it and turned back on.
    Toggle it multiple times though could be a variety of things like some have said.
    (1)

  9. #19
    Player Avatar de Kleeya
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    mars 2017
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    Character
    Kleeya White
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Machiniste Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par Nedkel Voir le message
    Its understandable if the tanks are newer players, but i have seen tanks with old account who were not using their tank stance.
    I have met few tanks like these in MSQ, they were not a sprouts, when asked they turned it on for a while then turned it off making run an unbearable and slow mess.
    We should be able to report these players who intentionally refuse to commit their role and troll entire team.
    Might be someone who didn't see the 5.0 aggro changes, and think that keeping his tank stance all the time is bad, really bad for his dps.

    He might even be thinking "uh, you never use diversion and want me to stay in tank stance to compensate for your lazyness ? If you are not using your aggro related skills i will not use mine !" XD
    (1)

  10. #20
    Player Avatar de Ammokkx
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    janvier 2020
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    Character
    Khenda Chelae
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Chevalier noir Lv 90
    Forgot tank stance one time due to sync and I got flamed super hard by a guy in the chat for it. 's not hard to just drop a quick "tank stance" as a reminder, no need to start a riot in the first minute of the dungeon ._.
    (3)

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