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    OskarXCI's Avatar
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    Xevia Vanothy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Covfefe View Post
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    You sure go a long way of trying to justify uneven teams.

    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Better?
    You are referring to the situation where I have to suffer because of people trying to play for PvE Objective in a PvP mode?
    Such as calling for a S rank node when this GC only need 50 more points to win?
    Better?
    I would rather to have the original pvp community size
    Situations like that can very much happen for an opposing team.

    It's now random. It can happen to you, it can happen to others.

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII View Post
    Pretty much, Adders dominated for the first few weeks of Onsal, and then like what happened to Maelstrom, started tanking hard because loads of leeches went to Adders to get carried to easier wins, which in turn meant Flames and Mael were able to get a lot of games back from them. To cap it off, Adders obviously had longer queues times (which some adders players circumvented by queueing freelance just so they could play, even if it meant a loss) and because people had swapped to them, they were stuck there, which freed up a lot of good players to swap OUT of Adders, and the cycle would have continued if forced freelancer wasn't a thing. In like the last 2 weeks of GCs meaning anything before forced freelancer, Flames were absolutely murdering Adders on Light. Like before forced freelancer, my winrate was actually better on Flames in FLs than it has been since the change, even though statistically we've always been one of the worst GCs with the few players that are half good at PvP turning freelancer on.
    So keep track of which GC is dominating on what data center? Feels like too much of a hassle and a lot of uneven matches. Force Freelancer and be done with it. (what they did).
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    Hello Welcome
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 69
    PVP is Player vs Player.
    Players are uneven.
    Teams are made out of players.
    Team PVP will be uneven.

    Players can improve themselves.
    It is good to allow players to stack.
    This encourages improvement.

    I like to fight against the dominant que.
    It makes me better.
    I also understand why people want to arrange a dominant que.
    For them, it is a different form of improvement than what I seek.
    Let them, I embrace a different challenge.

    If however, you determine fairness not availability of choosing correct control inputs, but by result that disregards the choices of control inputs then that is a path to innervation and death.

    If the goal is for all to win the same amount, then what point is there in doing any more than showing up, not caring, letting the time run out, and collect the reward.
    What those wanting all players to have the same win ratio should seek is a game mode where score is assigned randomly on equal chances each tick no matter what the players do.

    I'd only show up to a mode like that while doing some other work and mostly afk.
    If I want to sit at a screen and controls and play I want what I do to matter.
    Prior, it did. I did see my win rate go up from the underdog team.
    I did get to see the overall quality of my grand company improve by investing time and effort typing encouragement and looking to a better next moment.

    No point now. Growth of those beside me is no longer is structured to improve the world around me.
    If equality of outcome is valued over incentive to grow the way to the former will be through tearing down.
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    Last edited by Covfefe; 02-27-2020 at 12:01 AM.

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    BloodRubyXII's Avatar
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    Owa Owa
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    Odin
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by OskarXCI View Post
    So keep track of which GC is dominating on what data center? Feels like too much of a hassle and a lot of uneven matches. Force Freelancer and be done with it. (what they did).
    Not sure if you've misinterpreted what I said or what, but please elaborate. I was better off being on the same GC every game even though it wasn't particularly stacked than I am now under the random system where I can win a ton of games in one day and then win like 2 over the spam of 2 weeks.
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