Did Astrid Get the Most Votes on Every Server?

[Thestias]

In all honesty, it doesn't seem that odd to me that Astrid won, considering the people who didn't vote for her had a split vote between the two others--and since she's cute and had the Valentine's colour gear, the amount of people who did vote for her isn't surprising at all--despite her advice being terrible. Personally I picked the cute yellow boy because yellow is my favourite colour (yes I know the gear is dyeable but still), he was adorable, and I liked his advice best. I knew he wouldn't win but it was whatever to me

[JunseiKei]

Reading some of the responses here, it sounds like some players are reaching for reasons why their preferred pick didn't win.

I personally voted for Astrid, so did my husband, because we came to the same conclusion: hers made the most sense.

• Rodrigalt suggests take time to know yourself. NPC says they don't have much in the way of free time and loves their work greatly. Rodrigault disregards the NPC's lifestyle/choice.
• Bert suggests a change of profession. NPC, again, says they don't have much in the way of free time and loves their work greatly. Bert disregards the NPC's lifestyle/choice.
• Astrid suggests finding someone within the same profession (unlike some people's posts, I did not read to hit on employers or co-workers, as that is equally terrible advise in real life, but at least it did not go against the known details of the NPC).

Imagine going to school for a career you love, but it takes up most of your time. You love your work and you know it. It gives you fulfillment. You still want to find a companion and seek advise. Adviser tells you to quit your job and do something else. That's terrible advice, especially with how evanescent relationships can be. Even fictional, I wouldn't give that kind of counselling to anyone.

[Sairys]

Reading some of the responses here, it sounds like some players are reaching for reasons why their preferred pick didn't win.

I personally voted for Astrid, so did my husband, because we came to the same conclusion: hers made the most sense.

• Rodrigalt suggests take time to know yourself. NPC says they don't have much in the way of free time and loves their work greatly. Rodrigault disregards the NPC's lifestyle/choice.
• Bert suggests a change of profession. NPC, again, says they don't have much in the way of free time and loves their work greatly. Bert disregards the NPC's lifestyle/choice.
• Astrid suggests finding someone within the same profession (unlike some people's posts, I did not read to hit on employers or co-workers, as that is equally terrible advise in real life, but at least it did not go against the known details of the NPC).

Feel like you might want to re-read the quest text lol, Astrid suggested he try to find someone among his client list, i.e the people that pay him. We saw how well that went down when he actually followed her advice and continuing could have cost him that job he loves so much if he gets a bad rep among those clients.

Imagine going to school for a career you love, but it takes up most of your time. You love your work and you know it. It gives you fulfillment. You still want to find a companion and seek advise. Adviser tells you to quit your job and do something else. That's terrible advice, especially with how evanescent relationships can be. Even fictional, I wouldn't give that kind of counselling to anyone.

This is also kinda a misreading issue, Bert and Rodrigalt's suggestions aren't to quit his job, they're that he needs work-life balance. Which is what any decent counsellor would advise if you told them that your entire waking life is dedicated to your job and you have no space for anything else in your life lol.

[JunseiKei]

Feel like you might want to re-read the quest text lol, Astrid suggested he try to find someone among his client list, i.e the people that pay him. We saw how well that went down when he actually followed her advice and continuing could have cost him that job he loves so much if he gets a bad rep among those clients.



This is also kinda a misreading issue, Bert and Rodrigalt's suggestions aren't to quit his job, they're that he needs work-life balance. Which is what any decent counsellor would advise if you told them that your entire waking life is dedicated to your job and you have no space for anything else in your life lol.

The completed quest log doesn't give the dialogues, only an overview of the quests. If you've found them, though, I'd love a posting of them to re-read them, especially since my husband and I both didn't pick up on that if it's true. Yes, Rodrigault's overall advise is work-life balance, but then suggests doing it in a way that the NPC already said he had little to none of (taking time to figure out what he wants). Again, try telling someone that in reality - a job has demands and if you're unwilling to make sacrifices for it, especially for one you love, often times, you'll see yourself lose said job. It's still absolutely terrible advise.

[Sairys]

The completed quest log doesn't give the dialogues, only an overview of the quests. If you've found them, though, I'd love a posting of them to re-read them, especially since my husband and I both didn't pick up on that if it's true. Yes, Rodrigault's overall advise is work-life balance, but then suggests doing it in a way that the NPC already said he had little to none of (taking time to figure out what he wants). Again, try telling someone that in reality - a job has demands and if you're unwilling to make sacrifices for it, especially for one you love, often times, you'll see yourself lose said job. It's still absolutely terrible advise.

Here you go: https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/O...r_and_Argument
You can find the links to each of the "vote" quests in the "unlocks" section on that page as well, and each of those quests is linked to the three potential "outcome" quests thanks to datamining.


I think what you're pointing out as an issue with the guys suggestions is actually what other people are picking up on why Ywain is having issues in the first place?
His comments indicate his entire life is just like... wake up > work > training for work > sleep > repeat
There's no space for anything else, he's having issues forming a relationship, that's a sign his current lifestyle is having a negative effect on him.

[hasana]

Reading some of the responses here, it sounds like some players are reaching for reasons why their preferred pick didn't win.

I personally voted for Astrid, so did my husband, because we came to the same conclusion: hers made the most sense.

• Rodrigalt suggests take time to know yourself. NPC says they don't have much in the way of free time and loves their work greatly. Rodrigault disregards the NPC's lifestyle/choice.
• Bert suggests a change of profession. NPC, again, says they don't have much in the way of free time and loves their work greatly. Bert disregards the NPC's lifestyle/choice.
• Astrid suggests finding someone within the same profession (unlike some people's posts, I did not read to hit on employers or co-workers, as that is equally terrible advise in real life, but at least it did not go against the known details of the NPC).

Imagine going to school for a career you love, but it takes up most of your time. You love your work and you know it. It gives you fulfillment. You still want to find a companion and seek advise. Adviser tells you to quit your job and do something else. That's terrible advice, especially with how evanescent relationships can be. Even fictional, I wouldn't give that kind of counselling to anyone.

Astrid gives him what he wants.
Bert and Rodriguez what he needs.

[JunseiKei]

Astrid gives him what he wants.
Bert and Rodriguez what he needs.

I don't see it. Leaving your job and pursuing a hobby or career that you might not even be good with, let alone sustain yourself with, doesn't sound like a need to me. It sounds like a gamble and for something that may not even work out.

[Alleo]

I don't see it. Leaving your job and pursuing a hobby or career that you might not even be good with, let alone sustain yourself with, doesn't sound like a need to me. It sounds like a gamble and for something that may not even work out.

Why do you believe they want him to quit his job? Thats was nowhere in any dialogue. No they want him to focus on something else other than his job. Not just being a workaholic because often that does not get you love. They want to have him either find himself and thus know what he wants or take up a hobby that have him meet people.

[TwiibieTwuu]

Not gonna lie. If a five minute quest has everyone up in arms just because a elf girl won, I hope i can vote for her next year.

[LaylaTsarra]

Not gonna lie. If a five minute quest has everyone up in arms just because a elf girl won, I hope i can vote for her next year.

I voted for her with my many alts.. Guess I helped skew the election.