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  1. #71
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    Part of what bugs me too is having a 'bad ending' felt forced.

    Astrid's suggestion was a straight up bad idea with forseeable reasons for failure. The failure of the other two scenarios from what I've read feels incredibly forced. Nothing about the blue elf's suggestion hinted that he'd be spending a weird amount of time with a young girl for example, the same way Astrid's suggestion of seeking romance from clients had easily foreseeable bad outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    They should have used unpopular colors that aren't associated with V-day. Like Green, Orange and Yellow
    Or give three different version of the outfit: The one we did get, one that was one solid colored, and a third one (maybe stripe-patterned or white as an accent color instead of black).
    They could then keep all of them the default red but it would give players another reason to choose certain players.
    On top of that, players who chose the underdog(s) would then have their own special gear that was rarer AND SE could of sold them on the Mogstation (not that I support it, mind you). :B
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    Or give three different version of the outfit: The one we did get, one that was one solid colored, and a third one (maybe stripe-patterned or white as an accent color instead of black).
    They could then keep all of them the default red but it would give players another reason to choose certain players.
    On top of that, players who chose the underdog(s) would then have their own special gear that was rarer AND SE could of sold them on the Mogstation (not that I support it, mind you). :B
    Or just make one outfit, give it to the player no matter their vote, and decouple the reward from the vote entirely. I mean we effectivley got one outfit anyway that we just dye to look like the others if we want. It really didn't need to be tied to the vote at all.

    Not that I think it made a difference I think cute elezen kid vs yellow highlander and blue elf man would have still won easily anyway.
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  4. #74
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    Part of what bugs me too is having a 'bad ending' felt forced.

    Astrid's suggestion was a straight up bad idea with forseeable reasons for failure. The failure of the other two scenarios from what I've read feels incredibly forced. Nothing about the blue elf's suggestion hinted that he'd be spending a weird amount of time with a young girl for example, the same way Astrid's suggestion of seeking romance from clients had easily foreseeable bad outcome.
    I think it's supposed to be less of a bad ending and more along the lines of a gag that shows that their solutions weren't easy fixes to his problem.

    Besides, him getting advice from Sylphie isn't inherently weird in and of itself. Rodrigault's comment that she's a "fetching lass" is a little uncomfortable, though!
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  5. #75
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    The colours should not have been red, yellow and blue. It should have been red, pink and purple or another shade of pink/red (rolanberry red for example).
    Red, Pink, White.
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  6. #76
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    My friend actually did choose red for... red. I chose red for... hmm.. I liked Astrid. Yellow's idea was kind of dumb, what was it like going out and chopping down trees or something? Blue's if I remember right was going and meditating or something?
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  7. #77
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    All 3 endings are played as jokes. Lisette pretends each was a success even while Ywain doesn't get what he wants. That was never going to matter. Just look at Eureka's choice.

    Players picked the thing that actually mattered to them. Dalamud red dye is more expensive than Othard blue and millioncorn yellow dye on the marketboard. Red dyes are mostly pinks. Dalamud red is the only real red color. There's plenty of choices of good looking blue and yellows including ones on the vendor. If you want red, you are just about forced into dalamud red. It is hardly a surprise to me Dalamud red won.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariane View Post
    All 3 endings are played as jokes. Lisette pretends each was a success even while Ywain doesn't get what he wants. That was never going to matter. Just look at Eureka's choice.

    Players picked the thing that actually mattered to them. Dalamud red dye is more expensive than Othard blue and millioncorn yellow dye on the marketboard. Red dyes are mostly pinks. Dalamud red is the only real red color. There's plenty of choices of good looking blue and yellows including ones on the vendor. If you want red, you are just about forced into dalamud red. It is hardly a surprise to me Dalamud red won.
    Dalamund Red Dye is a level 30 recipe with paltry materials. That speaks of their laziness levels to the extreme. Though it seems many could care less about story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    Red, Pink, White.
    If that's pure white, it auto wins. That's about 1.5 million gil worth of dyes. You would have to be stupid to pass up on an outfit to default to pure white and go for pink or red (which is only worth a few hundred to thousands gil worth of dye). Even its just snow white it still has an advantage. Its similar to dalamud red. Snow white is one of the only two white dyes and comes from crafting or from Ixali maxed rep. The only group of 3 dyes that are equal would be all from normal vendors.
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    Last edited by Ariane; 02-10-2020 at 05:30 AM.

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    Vari Myste
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariane View Post
    Dalamud red dye is more expensive than Othard blue and millioncorn yellow dye on the marketboard.
    I did notice that they picked 3 dyes which were craftable, making the dye situation more fair than it would have been otherwise, but there really shouldn't have been a dye situation in the first place.

    There's really no perfectly fair way to do it though, there'll always be some bias involved. Even if Lisette just listed the three options herself without us knowing who suggested which while the three of them stood behind her, the top option would probably get more votes even if they were just listed "1" "2" and "3". Unless maybe the order was randomized for each player.

    It'd be interesting to see how close to unbaised they could get, and the above is the best I can think of, but it's so much extra work just to get around the inconvenience of dealing with players who aren't interested in quests, or just don't read.
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    Last edited by Sated; 02-10-2020 at 05:35 AM.


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