Valentines day event fail

[NessaWyvern]

Perhaps next year we should be the emissary of love, but this time, interviewing potential partners for Ywain, setting up dates, and maybe voting for whatever man or lady seemed the nicest.

Because gods, anyone but Marcette.

We shouldn't of been surprised though I guess, Lisette WAS pretty horrible to the man she ended up marrying. Of course she wouldn't see anything wrong with Marcette -.-

[Theodric]

Considering I pick the sauciest response every single time I can as the WoL, yes. I was even thinking it when I did the initial quests. Imagine, having the Warrior of Light as someone asking you out. Naturally, for neutrality, he could refuse and just like Magnai would lead nowhere. But it would have been an option I'd have picked without a second thought.

Mm. As far as I recall, we don't even get the option to acknowledge that we know him even if we've completed the Lancer class quests. Even after his, uh, 'disguise' is taken away. Which kind of defeats the whole point of using an existing NPC for such a quest in the first place.

[dinnertime]

I hope to the Twelve that the three options we have aren't constant like the Songbirds are, because none of them are really appealing and they're all equally disappointing to me. I highly doubt Astrid will be shelved, though.
If they're going to do something like this again, they should pick better representatives.

[Gofr]

I did genuinely like Astrid's suggestion the best personally. However I still voted Bert because....BERT! 'Nough said. I did think his was the second best suggestion, though. I didn't like Rodrigault's suggestion at all personally.

[Canada_bangs]

I looked it up and... my god...

...that's absolutely hilarious. I'm sad they changed that, the man's bold and knows what he wants.

What happens? I'm out of the loop so hard. :c

[Gula]

What happens? I'm out of the loop so hard. :c

His personality in JP is basically for a Japanese audience. It's their kind of archetype that to the west, sends out bad vibes. I believe it's been described as lovable debauch.

This was changed in the west to just have him as our fanboy, minus the thirsty advances.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

You're correct in that it's terrible, though a lot of forms of Japanese media (be it movies, video-games or anime) do indeed push the idea of emotional and/or physical abuse being directed at men as something that is hilarious. In this case it's particularly unsettling as Ywain is a serious character and someone who has taught the Warrior of Light valuable techniques that led to the very world itself being spared from destruction.

He's certainly deserving of being treated with more dignity. Worse yet, the protagonists in this game spend a significant amount of their time lecturing others about what is 'right' and 'wrong' only for something like this to be implemented...with absolutely no in-universe backlash whatsoever.

It's kind of an unfortunate combination of jokes.

Marcette has been a questgiver since 1.0, so she has something of a reputation of being a terror and somehow gets away with being horrible in-universe. Either her first (or second) quest that she gives to the Warrior of Light involves having them collect some spore samples from a fungus that could potentially take over their body and kill them. Which she doesn't inform them of until after the fact.

Marcette: The spore sacs you supplied provide indisputable evidence in favor of my theory! You see, the spores they contain are identical to those which infested the brains of those poor gnats and puks I killed!

Marcette: Ah, yes, it seems I forgot to recommend that you keep your mouth covered, and your nose, ears, and...so on, suitably plugged while slaying these beasts. Yes, well...er...sorry about that! I'm sure there isn't a spore nesting down in your brain even as we speak. Quite sure, yes.

Marcette: Well, you appear to be right as the rain for the time being! A good sign, I should think. Anyway, here is payment for your services─and your silence. No doubt the Gridanians would not take kindly to our slaying forest denizens without proper leave. Should you ever feel guilty about what you've done, just remember this─science! Oh, and should you ever feel unaccountably drawn to humid regions... Er, forget I mentioned it. Science!

2.0 gives her similar quests in Central Shroud, complete with a guy who continually begs you to save him from her whenever you chat with him, if I'm not mistaken. One of her quests involves having you kill one of those huge Morbols over by Haukke Manor for its stomach, after which point she basically calls you useless and refuses to thank you. The next quest involves collecting some fungus, after which she immediately forgets you did anything for her. And then comes her final quest to collect a Lightning Sprite...

Marcette: Research Assistant Six. Yes, I am speaking to you, Research Assistant Six─that is the title I have deigned to bestow upon you after your humble contribution to my latest scientific breakthrough.

Marcette: Mind you, now that you are officially my slave─er, research assistant─there will be no slacking off. I require a live lightning spark. Here is a jar. Now hurry─I haven't all day!

-The Warrior of Light captures the sprite.-

Marcette: The mere fact that you dare to interrupt me means that you must have the live lightning spark I require. Well, hand it over, then!

Marcette: Oooh, aren't you a cute little one!? Just think of all the fun I can have with you! The next assistant who dares shirk his/her duties is in for quite a shock! Muahahaha!!!

Eventually, a Postmoogle quest was added for her and the Moogle is absolutely terrified at the prospect of delivering a letter to her, having you go in his stead. What follows is a quest wherein she threatens both you and another assistant (Hobriaut) with bodily harm multiple times while insulting you. The quest ends with her tormenting a live mole as well, purportedly in the name of science.

She also has an acquaintance, Atelloune, in the Stormblood Leatherworker questline. I believe she's name-dropped for the first time in the Postmoogle sidequest, but she may have been mentioned earlier. At any rate, while she is initially set up to seem like a terrible person by virtue of being said to be an acquaintance of Marcette's, the rug pulled from under you when Atelloune is revealed to actually be a pretty decent person who actually treats you with respect and never really throws you into dangerous/potentially life-threatening situations.

Marcette also cheats at Triple Triad, incidentally. And, I mean, most NPCs do, but it's still worth noting as a black mark against her!

My point is that when you see Marcette in the Valentione's quest, the message is less "It's okay for Marcette to treat Ywain like this" and more "Oh Lord, not her; Astrid, please reconsider", with the gag being that Ywain has no idea what horrible situation he's getting himself into. Unfortunately, without the benefit of knowing Marcette in advance and/or the fact that this is supposed to be an event where you're trying to match Ywain with his ideal partner based on the outcome of a vote, it can come across more uncomfortably than the writers probably intended! It's kinda like the whole "Rowena keeps Gerolt in eternal servitude" thing all over again.

[MidnightS]

Well, at least someone is happy about who won.

[Nedkel]

I blame dalamud dye pricecfor that.

[RubyCirha]

ill be hones i didn't even read it i just chose astrid cas reds my favorite color normally i do read them i just didn't have a lot of time when i did it so i just skiped it