Valentines day event fail

[Kytrin]

While non of the plans were that detailed, Astrids missed one very important detail to me: The distinction between "Hey, is there something you've met through your work that you could imagine spending more time with?" and "Okay, there must be women somewhere in your work envoriment, lets hit on some!"

I admit that I honestly interpreted her plan the first way when I did the quest on my main and voted for her. It didn't even occur to me that she was referring to flirting randomly with women he works with. I totally thought there was a "Let's try spending more time with your clients socially, because they already know you, like you, and know you're awkward and serious af, and see if they can introduce you to new people!" thing going on.

Man was I disappointed in how that played out. If I'd realized, I would've voted for the elf on both my main and my alt lol!

[WhiteArchmage]

At least they did a blog post so we could see the decorations in the other colours as well

Edit: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/002945.html

Gotta say, after the dev blog post, Rodrigault's plan looks BETTER (focusing on self-care), while Bert's is pretty funny.

[Liale]

Rodrigault's blue decorations are so much classier than Astrid's.

[MsQi]

No, everyone is not treating it as such. When we start crossing over into pixel conspiracy theories about the voting or applying real world scenarios and situations to what an npc does in a storyline, then it is not being treated as a game and getting a little too serious.

You don't play RPGs, I mean as RPGs, do you? Considering things in game as if they could be real is part of that genre. I don't know what conspiracy theory you are talking about.

[Alleo]

At least they did a blog post so we could see the decorations in the other colours as well

Edit: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/002945.html

True and I love the blue one

Also it makes it quite clear that Slyphy was not intended to be the partner but that she burst into the conversation and told him that he needs to take care of himself more.

[Katalyn]

I must be bad at writing because I feel people keep missing my main point. So one last try.

I did not include it because I dont care if it could lead to creepy situations or not. IMO one should simply not give such an advice to someone completely new to love. What would search among them include then? When they went to Geva he talks about love. Its not like Astrid gave him much help there either.

In the end her advice only managed to make it awkward between him and Geva and to introduce him to the worst NPC of the whole game..but since neither Astrid or Lisette have a problem with abusing men its a success..and such an ending for a event that is all about love.

I agree the end results of Astrid's plan were bad. However, this thread was (is?) about the vote with a number of people stating Astrid's plan was the worst which compounded their frustration with her winning everywhere. My point is her plan, as briefly detailed in the vote quest, was not so fundamentally flawed as to warrant that criticism and that people, including myself, could have legitimately cast their vote for her based on the merit of her plan.

I was glad to see I was not the only one who thought searching for love at work didn't mean just hitting on anyone. As I said previously, a good way to search would simply have been to open up. Ywain came across as the reserved type so just have normal conversations with the folks he is around daily and get to know them while also letting them get to know him. This is generally how any type of relationship begins. Now since Ywain is inexperienced we were counting on Astrid to suitably guide him. Obviously, she failed, but again I don't think this was apparent from the voting portion.

Improving oneself is not really passive. You have to take the steps to start to learn about yourself. And if you know what you want you will know what you want in a relationship. I mean he does not even know what type of person he likes. How would he even find one? Randomly doing it until its a success? Bert is also active because he has to step out of his comfort zone and search for something else to do next to work.

I agree self-improvement is active. Active/passive was a poor choice of words on my part. I should have said direct/indirect. Astrid had a direct plan of action as compared to the other two. As far as how he knows what he likes or how he would find someone, I'd say going out there meeting people and interacting with people to see who he clicks with and who he doesn't. You might even call that searching.

People having the same hobbies are often great ways to start a relationship. He also can train to talk and interact with more people too. Astrid plan was to just go to Geva (she did not even ask him if he liked her) and let him hit on her. Which could have ended very badly for their business relationship. That honestly does sound like he just should hit on someone and not at least on those he already has some feelings for..and 100% never talk about love when you barely even know them.

I agree hobbies are a good way to start a hobby. I believe this is the case because sharing a common interest helps establish a relationship. Do you know where else people are likely to share a common interest? Work. Usually, people have some interest in the field in which they are involved.

Astrid did execute her plan poorly, but searching for love doesn't necessarily and shouldn't involve just hitting on the very first person. Again, I don't think it was obvious from the voting portion her search would be so narrow, and we couldn't have really known she'd handle it so poorly from just the brief description in the voting portion of the event. After all she did say clients, as in more that one, as in not just the first person you are going to see that day.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

I voted for Bert, but I think the outfit looks better in blue (since I'm using mine as a BLU glamour) and his decorations gel with the stage a lot better.

But I guess now we have official confirmation that Astrid won on every server.

I finally did the second quest today. It's even worse than I thought.
Not only he flirts with a married woman, but he knows perfectly well being married! This paints his character in a really bad light.

I'd like to address that assumption. Astrid's advice was to look for romance among his clients and she encourages him to head to the Leatherworker's Guild since he has a shipment to deliver there.

When Geva asks why he's arrived, Ywain says that he's following Astrid's advice and looking for love. Geva is the one who assumes he's talking about romancing her, which is the result of Ywain being incredibly vague with his wording. He could very well have meant to ask "Do you know any singles I could hook up with?", especially since Geva already stated that he knows she's married with children, but he didn't convey that very well. And he doesn't have another line until after Marcette comes in, so there's not any time to correct himself.

[kujoestars]

I honestly thought Astrid had the most solid (and ironically logical) argument, but I utterly despise how things went and how poor Ywain now has to deal with MARCETTE of all people! Literally no one deserves Marcette because she is an abusive a-hole as anyone who’s had to do her stupid quests can tell you. Makes me really wish I picked Rodrigault or at least that he’d won somewhere because he was a close tie for me and I only opted for Astrid because the spiritual route hit and miss for people. Ugh, I really need to know the outcomes for him and Bert now and hope Squeenix will at least give us the mercy to see them given how Astrid universally won, ugh.

I was hoping someone would bail him out at least and we get to see him try at least a couple other places. This event is a disappointment. Of course, Bert and Rod’s version could be equally fail but we’ll never know.

EDIT: I only just saw the link to the blog and yeah, those two’s advice don’t seem to go overly well either. Bert’s went exactly as disastrously as I thought it wood (*BADUMTSH!*) though Rod’s, while also kinda sucky, seems to the least bad outcome. I would take Sylphie over fucking Marcette any day. >.>;

Basically: Poor Ywain seems doomed from the start.

[Vidu]

I honestly thought Astrid had the most solid (and ironically logical) argument, but I utterly despise how things went and how poor Ywain now has to deal with MARCETTE of all people! Literally no one deserves Marcette because she is an abusive a-hole as anyone who’s had to do her stupid quests can tell you. Makes me really wish I picked Rodrigault or at least that he’d won somewhere because he was a close tie for me and I only opted for Astrid because the spiritual route hit and miss for people. Ugh, I really need to know the outcomes for him and Bert now and hope Squeenix will at least give us the mercy to see them given how Astrid universally won, ugh.

This vote was totally rigged.

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/R...27s_Revelation

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Bert%27s_Big_Idea

Here you go - you can at least read what happens with the other two. Spoiler: He doesnt find the love of his life either but he also doesnt get "forced" to hit on a married woman and ends up in an abusive work-relationship (...although... one could argue that for Berts outcome...)

[kujoestars]

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/R...27s_Revelation

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Bert%27s_Big_Idea

Here you go - you can at least read what happens with the other two. Spoiler: He doesnt find the love of his life either but he also doesnt get "forced" to hit on a married woman and ends up in an abusive work-relationship (...although... one could argue that for Berts outcome...)

Edited too slow, haha. Though I will point out that Ywain wasn’t trying to hit on Geva so much as gave her terrible wording out of nerves that he wants to know if she knows anyone. Bert’s option was epic fail exactly as I expected. Rodrigault.....I’d say it’s the least sucky out of the three but still bleh.

As I said in my edited comment, Ywain seems doomed no matter what. But *angry rants about Marcette*

We’ll probably never know how that goes. Part of me hopes maybe he can finally tame that abusive shrew (haha, ironic given what Taming of the Shrew is about) or at least bail and find someone else on his own.