Okay everyone, focus.

[Rydin]

I totally agree that forums should have opposing arguments. These days, people need to have a place to share ideas and voice opinions. The only thing about it, is a grand number of people seem to not grasp the idea that their feedback isn't constructive enough to be taken as more than a statistical number (for developers). Constructive arguments against something should be weighed in on with timing and insight whenever possible or applicable. Simply saying something isn't "cool looking" is at best, a statistic tally for potential visual change.

I think I understand what you mean with you having experience as a musician, and am glad you do, but not caring for Bard. I took Iaido for a number of years in the past, yet Samurai (or classes/jobs like it) is always on the lower end of the list of attractive playstyles. I just don't care for the SAM gameplay. However, I did used to be in band for 6yrs of my K-12 schooling, and found the bard class attractive. Different form of nostalgia maybe? Or maybe we just don't care too much for things we have experience with IRL? But it obviously doesn't change the fact that despite RL experiences, we may still enjoy it in the fictional world. I just enjoyed the playstyle and arguable skill necessary to play the job well. Character positioning, different instrument types to produce different results (string having wider range), and so on.

I appreciate that
And Like I said... i wont rage over Dancer... It seems like a lot of people like it... I guess I just don't get it...
But I do want to make sure people aren't confusing the usefulness of the job with the job itself...
Like if they added a job called "Douchebag" but it was the biggest and best DD of all time.. people would be on the forum defending how awesome bags of douche really are
OK... maybe I have a penchant for exaggeration... but who doesn't like a little flare here and there

[Welsper59]

I appreciate that
And Like I said... i wont rage over Dancer... It seems like a lot of people like it... I guess I just don't get it...
But I do want to make sure people aren't confusing the usefulness of the job with the job itself...
Like if they added a job called "Douchebag" but it was the biggest and best DD of all time.. people would be on the forum defending how awesome bags of douche really are
OK... maybe I have a penchant for exaggeration... but who doesn't like a little flare here and there

Okay, I gotta give it to yah, this post made me LOL. I can see people indeed cheering for Douchebags, and I'd probably be one of them... if anything, just for the hilarity of it.

Most people are always going to be on the lookout for something fun to do. Often, this fun includes a unique aspect of it compared to what else is out there. DNC is definitely one of those things that the FF series has that others usually don't. If something like that attracts attention, if anything positive attention, in that the game has unique things to offer, then all the better. It doesn't mean that it's necessary to play the job that you find questionable, but as long as it's not gamebreaking (mechanics wise), it's something that should just be accepted. Others probably disagree with your displeasure, but the bottomline is, if someone enjoys it, and it doesn't hurt you (or others), don't hurt them.

That's not to say to just rollover and take whatever happens, by all means voice your opinion of dislike. It may end up being something the devs of this game (and others) keep in the back of their minds for the future. But again, if you want to be taken seriously, it has to be constructive. If anyone negative can't be constructive, the post is likely trolling / poorly thought out / joking. It helps when trying to remain sane online LOL.

[Rydin]

Okay, I gotta give it to yah, this post made me LOL. I can see people indeed cheering for Douchebags, and I'd probably be one of them... if anything, just for the hilarity of it.

Most people are always going to be on the lookout for something fun to do. Often, this fun includes a unique aspect of it compared to what else is out there. DNC is definitely one of those things that the FF series has that others usually don't. If something like that attracts attention, if anything positive attention, in that the game has unique things to offer, then all the better. It doesn't mean that it's necessary to play the job that you find questionable, but as long as it's not gamebreaking (mechanics wise), it's something that should just be accepted. Others probably disagree with your displeasure, but the bottomline is, if someone enjoys it, and it doesn't hurt you (or others), don't hurt them.

That's not to say to just rollover and take whatever happens, by all means voice your opinion of dislike. It may end up being something the devs of this game (and others) keep in the back of their minds for the future. But again, if you want to be taken seriously, it has to be constructive. If anyone negative can't be constructive, the post is likely trolling / poorly thought out / joking. It helps when trying to remain sane online LOL.

ok... can I at least petition for some more badass gear for DNC in this one?

[Welsper59]

ok... can I at least petition for some more badass gear for DNC in this one?

Yes, and I'd like to join in on that petition. Or at least for additional options that relate to DNC-like gear... kinda like how there's all sorts of heavy armor gear designs for physical classes, and robe type gear for casters, yet they aren't exclusively designed for just that one class/job. Just so that DNC doesn't have to be limited to frilly gear as being the only symbol of DNC gear, or I guess for some, so the others don't have to be excluded from wearing frilly gear lol.