Quote Originally Posted by Lersayil View Post
Look, I don't mind stories about good and evil, but the writers are clearly trying to go the moral relativist route to some degree here. Good and evil are simplistic, reductive and dismissive labels if used outside of absolute morality situations.
No, it's not. Defining good and evil is the basis of morality.

In the end, FFXIV is a game where you will beat the enemy, and if the enemy ends up being spared/justified in the story because of moral relativism, then that would just make for a poor story in my opinion. So far, I don't think FFXIV has gone that route, and I hope they never do.

Based on your arguments, you also might be confusing moral nihilism with relativism?
I don't think I am. I am speaking of the idea that you recognize that other people may have different moral viewpoints and then try to limit the application of your own moral viewpoint so as to not impose on theirs. That idea is what I reject.

If I am opposing someone because that person is doing something that I think is wrong, then it is irrelevant if they think they're doing something right because they have a different moral worldview/circumstances unless they can convince me to adopt their moral worldview or they can convince me that they are not doing what I think they're doing.

If that's not what you mean by moral relativism, then please explain.

Moral nihilism, to me, seems to be about rejecting all moral values because there is no meaning to any of it in the end. I would also disagree with it, and do think moral relativism is one step closer to nihilism, but that's not what I was discussing specifically.