Can we get choices that really matter and have a effect?

[LolitaBansheeMeru]

Didn't Light kill a half-dozen random people in a very early chapter just to punish a bad driver? Freeze placed the possibility of healing his wife above the life of numerous guards and scientists that he killed to fund and push forward research. Ivy was often shown vigilante killing anyone that didn't agree with her narrow ecological viewpoints. Adam Taurus sent a squad to kill the Belladonna household for opposing him. I'm pretty sure I could keep going, but the list would get repeatable after a bit.

Just because they had what they felt were "good intentions"(FYI: Adam did not, he just wanted to hurt everyone that wouldn't worship him), doesn't mean that they aren't villains. It's actions that matter, not intentions. Emet-Selch could have a been leader that brought the survivors and children of the post-Terminus world into an age of peace of prosperity, instead he choose to lie, manipulate, steal, murder to further his personal goals. He's Salem, not Ozma.

Adam was one of the fauns that was tortured and enslaved that got a brand over his left eye from it so honestly he had a good reason.

Light didn't take out innocents unless he was left no other options to keep up his godly and needed to be done work (which was basicly 1 woman that he had to deal with) on the bus scene he only targeted the one that took the bus hostage. Plus Adam didn't send those people the 2 brothers did Adam was busy at the time that was going on with other things

Which I have to disagree to me personally its the intention that really matters which Salem is one of those types of characters that I didn't support until I learned her background since she honestly is only that way because the two gods didn't bring back her love and then they brought him back anyways her actions are not her fault its the fault of those two gods she is just doing what she has to.

Everything has a pure state btw to your edit until it realizes the true colors of things that makes that thing realize sometimes to really change and make things better they have to take on and do "evil" actions.

I mean Outside Light Can really you blame Salem for what she is doing or Emet or even Niddhogg/Adam or even Mr freeze all of those were once good /pure until they broke and had no other choice but what was forced on them to do actions they take is truely for a good objective so that alone justifys and makes any and every actions they take really the good guy design. Not even counting all Ivy wanted was to return the world and save the earth and nature/plants so she wasnt really a villian.

Ps I also put Banshee which in charmed was a witch that was suffering that transformed into a weebing spirt that screamed and went for revenge of the one that harmed them in the characters case it was Cole.

Which I'm not saying Id side by true villians just those who are honestly good guys that go about things in darker methods I guess the term for them would be Anti-heros when they seek out true good objective like the ones listed above did but they have to do some small bad things to make that objective happan. for example The joker/bane i'd never side with they really have no real reason to act they just do it because they want to.