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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilism View Post
    I don't know why they bother having dialogue choices, I rather my character just nod as usual if they're just gona half heartedly implement dialogue options. If I wanted meaningful choices, I'll just play Mass Effect.
    LOL, nice joke about meaningful choices in mass effect
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    LOL, nice joke about meaningful choices in mass effect
    Well sure, when you shoot Mordin in the back and then you murder Wrex to cover up your crimes, they all stay dead. There's no going back from that.

    Murdering Mordin
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVuMXjpANmw
    Murdering Wrex
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbF76Sswj-Q
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Well sure, when you shoot Mordin in the back and then you murder Wrex to cover up your crimes, they all stay dead. There's no going back from that.

    Murdering Mordin
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVuMXjpANmw
    Murdering Wrex
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbF76Sswj-Q
    I'm not saying all choices didn't make a difference, but in the end, not one did. Do you like red, green, or blue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I'm not saying all choices didn't make a difference, but in the end, not one did. Do you like red, green, or blue?
    Not all meaningful choices need be reflecting in some alternate ending. FFXIV has next to none. Imagine having to choose whether to save Alphinaud or Alisaie and leave the other to die like on Virmire and what a personal impact that would have to the Warrior of Light. A journey of meaningful decisions is still impactful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Not all meaningful choices need be reflecting in some alternate ending. FFXIV has next to none. Imagine having to choose whether to save Alphinaud or Alisaie and leave the other to die like on Virmire and what a personal impact that would have to the Warrior of Light. A journey of meaningful decisions is still impactful.
    Its a lot of work to make those storyline make sense later. You are basically writing 3 or 4 stories at once. This is fine in a single player game that may get 1 or 2 dlc. It would be rather difficult to do in a game going in 6 expansions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I'm not saying all choices didn't make a difference, but in the end, not one did. Do you like red, green, or blue?
    Funnily enough there are replacement characters that actually fill both the role of Wrex, and Mordin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Funnily enough there are replacement characters that actually fill both the role of Wrex, and Mordin.
    Not in Mass Effect 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Not in Mass Effect 3.
    These two are their replacements that fill the exact same role in the story.

    https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Padok_Wiks

    https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Urdnot_Wreav
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    These two are their replacements that fill the exact same role in the story.

    https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Padok_Wiks

    https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Urdnot_Wreav
    No, if you shoot Mordin or Wrex in Mass Effect 3, their replacements will not appear in the game. Their characters and their respective roles are dead by the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Funnily enough there are replacement characters that actually fill both the role of Wrex, and Mordin.
    Mass Effect is actually a masterclass in the illusion of consequence. There can be side-content which appears (or doesn't appear) based on the choices you make, but the broad arcs of the series remain the same no matter what choices you make. But the details within those arcs can different wildly. As noted, if Wrex and Mordin are gone, their roles are filled by others... but it still feels like your choice had a consequence, because these characters are gone.

    That's hard to do well, and it's what SquareEnix would need to do in order to make it manageable. Otherwise, a few expansions in, compounded choice after choice could lead to storylines that were fairly divergent. They'd need the consequence to feel weighty but be illusory. Now, one of the most effective ways to do that is to close off—or open up—side quests based on those choices; if entire quests are based around the outcome of your choice, it feels like that choice has weight.

    But I imagine that making entire quest chains only available to people based on dialogue options (or other choices) would not be a popular choice in an MMO...
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