Quote Originally Posted by Karshan View Post
1) But only one, since the rest is gone, and it is not so ground breaking either
2) very true (except when you're yourself out of range, but in that case the melee would be as well so fully agree).
3) I'm sorry, melee rotations are not a brain twister either... Don't make it look like ranged rota is a breathe in the park while monk or dragoon are complex cluster of what the fuckery...it is not true and they're pretty straightforward.
4) fully agree, although this reflects in rDPS measured by fflogs. If they didn't have that mobility, they'd be even lower. Already taken into account.
One thing you could possibly do is give the role action that reduces strenght/dex for ranged then, it gives them another damage reduction while not making them that OP (although seeing how it helps on TEA, I think it definitely would).
The issue with ranged is and will always be uptime, that is one thing clearly underestimated by the community, is how strong being free of range limitation and being able to move all the time is. I'm only talking about ranged physical here, not casters, as being a caster means that you have to watch for your GCDs. There is a reason that there is uptime strats made especially for melees and there isn't the same for ranged physical. this is purely the sam main speaking here, but missing even a single GCD has a bigger impact on my dps than forgetting to refresh a dot on bard. And missing a GCD on melee is way easier than ranged, as ranged is more about forgetting to press a button than just being out of range. (if you're out of range then everyone else is too basically)

Ranged, based on this, cannot mess their rotation because of the way a fight is made, opposed to melee. If you mess up your rotation on ranged, then you played poorly (pressed the wrong buttons) where with melee (and also casters) there is a bigger numbers of factor that can make you mess rotation. It's an easy concept of "high risk high reward" play. Increasing the offensive utility of ranged will not bring "balance" in any way. Like somebody else said earlier, two melees are a thing, two casters are too. It is a risk sure, but it has a decent damage reward. However, as soon as you make double ranged viable, then nobody in their right mind would ever take two melees or casters if you could achieve the same reward with less risk. Let's not forget Party Finder in Stormblood, where excluding Sam and Blm was a common thing because even tho they could bring decent damage (higher than the rest in fact) the risk was just too high to be "worth it" for pugs. Peoples will exactly follow the same mentality if you make double ranged viable. This we don't want to, because it will just kill the two other role outright.