Aggro Icon

[Jabo]

Make it smaller or leave it out.
Or the best choice: Put it in the "below" name-bar.

People in behest or leves still don't pay attention anyways.

[Rebellion]

I think the aggro indicator should be displayed with the difficulty indicator in the target widget. Perhaps just a red border on the difficulty icon, or a small red dot next to it. Right now, it's just ugly, and obtrusive.

That sounds good to me

[Umo]

I've played FFXI and WoW and I don't like agro information. There are people telling that most of actual MMOs have that information, but that shouldn't force something to be implemented. We're not lemmings...
IMHO this is not about "user friendly" environment; FOR ME it's more about making an easier way of exploring, taking away the fear/immersion factor. I dislike that.
This is just my opinion, as valuable as everyone else's one.

PD: Sorry for my written English. It's not my mother language...

[Lahru_Hukurou]

I get the points that some people are bringing up. Some people that play games can't or just don't want to figure things out for themselves. I think having the information in the game can be a good thing. As long as we have the choice to turn off the aggro indicator, npc markers, ingame tutorials (if we ever get them), and the such it will be good for everyone. I really don't get why we didn't have a toggle option to begin with. I thought that something like that would come standard nowadays.

I'm just like a number of people on here, I don't want to know everything. I want to learn through my experiences. I like the uncertainty when I'm exploring, not being sure if the creature is going to nom on me or not. But, I understand that there are a number of people that don't like that. People that want information handed to them on a silver platter, which isn't a bad thing. The dev team can make it where it pleases both sides of this argument. I don't think that this is asking for too much.

[AngryNixon]

To put it bluntly the addition of that icon seems like 'idiot proofing'.

I have seen it posted a few times in this thread that people miss the sense of uncertainty that came from exploring the world. Accidentally pulling aggro was the most amusing part of FFXI. For example wandering around areas in the Sky zone and someone casting a spell and bringing the house down on themselves was hilarious. Avoiding aggro in FFXI with the three distinct types of aggro was an art in itself and was a very enjoyable robust part of the game. Here it's artless at best and now tacky on top of that since they're announced as aggro with ridiculous large red icons (that people still aggro anyhow).

There should be no indication that it aggros at all. Try a little good old fashioned learning and go figure it out yourselves. Also... if you aren't sure a giant troll monster or a dragon is aggressive... uninstall the game. (yes, I'm aware there are grey areas where they might or might not be aggressive, to that I refer you back to "go figure it out")

[Ranka]

I don't know about you guys, but the icon makes me think I am playing minesweeper. O.o

[Twiddle]

I think that the icon is a great idea, am all for exploration and all that and the icon helps to know what mobs to avoid and which are safe. Some people's "learn it your self" ideology, is others frustration. Best example, even at 50, there are thing that can easy kill you, so imagine you spent the last hour ruining from camp A to get to camp B and 3min before you hit camp a you come across a mob. With this icon you can know if you can pet the mob and move on, or take 3min extra to go around it, instead of having to rerun from the start.
I do agree that we need a toggle on/off for the icons, not only for mobs but for quest npc. That way some can learn the hard way, some can cut out frustration.

[Smashington]

It's true that players in Leve parties and Behest still don't know what mobs aggro. Or they can't judge the aggro distance very well. Or they don't understand the concept of pulling. Or they just aren't paying attention. Or something.

The Aggro Icon did not make players any better at avoiding aggro.

[Kashius]

I think that the icon is a great idea, am all for exploration and all that and the icon helps to know what mobs to avoid and which are safe. Some people's "learn it your self" ideology, is others frustration. Best example, even at 50, there are thing that can easy kill you, so imagine you spent the last hour ruining from camp A to get to camp B and 3min before you hit camp a you come across a mob. With this icon you can know if you can pet the mob and move on, or take 3min extra to go around it, instead of having to rerun from the start.
I do agree that we need a toggle on/off for the icons, not only for mobs but for quest npc. That way some can learn the hard way, some can cut out frustration.

In that scenario you just avoid the mob anyways. Not sure why the icon is even the lest bit necessary or useful. Exploration is part of these types of an MMO, as is learning the game's mob's traits. I think that the icon, in addition to being fugly as hell, is pointless.

How is it difficult, or even less fun, to just avoid things if you don't know their stance (passive/aggressive)? Then as you continue playing you learn which mobs to avoid in which areas. Trial/Error and other players giving you information is all part of the experience - why dumb it down to such a degree? Is it a game breaker? No. Silly and unnecessary? Yes.

And what camp takes an hour to run to? With the changes to Anima usage for TP and the ability to set favorites, you shouldn't have to run THAT long to get anywhere...

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Think ppl need to get off the exploration mindset. This game was suppose to be fore the "less time consuming" crowd. It takes time to learn what aggros and what don't. This time is taken away from enjoyment. Sorry I'd be for the removel of it, if I knew the community was a bit more helpful. I can't trust that with what happen in my last few days of playing ffxi.

Guys, no one helps newbies anymore. Newbies get stuck and quit. And in reality just because you have a "i aggro" sign, don't really do much in taking away from the adventure. It just makes this game less time consuming.

Players will still have to learn to avoid said aggro. So knowing what does and doesn't aggro is helpful. I used to play ffxi for 2 hrs a day, because I had to share a ps2 with my brother and had no wireless internet. Once I had to start exploring I wasted alot of time because of death. It wasn't fun.

Luckily I did join a helpful Linkshell and got help. But no mmo is like that anymore. Everyone treats newbies like scum.