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    0xReki's Avatar
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    Anti-cheat just ruins games.
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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0xReki View Post
    Anti-cheat just ruins games.
    No, cheaters do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    No, cheaters do.
    That they do, but theres a lot of conflation between using a parser (which ultimately just collects combat log data) and using third party mods that affect fight difficulty. YoshiP did distinguish between these two facets. His concern regarding Parsers isnt about number crunching, its about harassment that he said ensues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post
    That they do, but theres a lot of conflation between using a parser (which ultimately just collects combat log data) and using third party mods that affect fight difficulty. YoshiP did distinguish between these two facets. His concern regarding Parsers isnt about number crunching, its about harassment that he said ensues.
    So it's: cheaters and mean spirited people ruin games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    No, cheaters do.
    The amazing thing is that they're not mutually exclusive

    Both ruin games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    The amazing thing is that they're not mutually exclusive

    Both ruin games.
    Cheaters ruin games.

    Anticheat software that's forced to run as administrator ruins operating system stability and security.

    Neither is great. (One is admittedly more likely to cause catastrophic data loss than the other, though.)
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    You know I've played games with those things if you have a firewall or have a exel document opened it prevents you from running the game those systems are always way over sensitive lol
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    They said it in the Live Letter. You can use Excel to parse the battle log!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0xReki View Post
    They said it in the Live Letter. You can use Excel to parse the battle log!
    No, the anti cheat system isn't made by SE - the person above you is saying that one of the issues is that even EXCEL has been known to conflict with the anti-cheat software.
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    That was sarcasm. I forgot to bring the sign.
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    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.

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