Thank you Yoshi for your stance on DPS meters

[Vahlnir]

There wouldn’t be a thing called Dunning-Kruger effect if it is true. People tend to overestimate their abilities or in some cases, underestimate it. And when there are min maxing, it’s harder to tell how well you do in your role in comparison to others.

I get that. My personal opinion is just that I don't think we need them. Some feel differently and that's okay. There's 2 sides to every debate, if not more. Parsers are a useful tool in the right hands for those who deem them necessary. When I was using one in WoW though I actually performed worse, but I do know that for some people they have the opposite effect. As a dps I'm usually in the top 5 (at the higher end of that 5, mind you) more often than not when someone posts parsing data, but what works for me may not work for others. I was just throwing it out there that performance CAN be judged without using one. Like you said though, I suppose it might not always be 100% accurate depending on the person. That's actually a fair point.

[FF16Necromancer]

You mean that stance where they still allow them despite it being against their ToS but instead of allowing people to actually talk about a problem, they'll silently kick whomever is holding the group back?

People usually just disband instead of kicking anyone because kicking people can lead to a GM warning.

[Tonkra]

There wouldn’t be a thing called Dunning-Kruger effect if it is true. People tend to overestimate their abilities or in some cases, underestimate it. And when there are min maxing, it’s harder to tell how well you do in your role in comparison to others.

I wonder how you perfect your playstyle in Offline Games like Final Fantasy 12 or else without a programmatic parser??... jeess..

All i say is: people, play the game and not the numbers.

I am playing MMORPGs since 20 years now and still my opinion is that people shouldnt play the code and enjoy the gameplay itself.
I dont need a parser in FFX,FF12, Street fighter etc. in order to know if i am getting better or not.... thats also kind of a skill, if you have the abillity to analyze how good you are even without a third party tool.
In this sense it is also kind of cheating / modding.

And there are things in a game that shouldnt be transparent to the players as well. I am not playing a f** Excel Sheet... thanks.

In my opinion this kind of transparency / tools is extremely outdated and MMORPGs should head more into the direction of entertainment than into numbers.
Thats something that in my opinion what rpgs shouldnt be like at all.

[Jojoya]

. I am not playing a Excel Sheet... thanks.

Except you are. Combat progress is determined by math formulas, not whimsy.