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    Trusts are my condition to remain engaged with FFXIV. Every MMO needs them!

    So I have a really important question because I've only recently returned to FFXIV and wasn't here when all the talk about trusts as a new and shiny thing went down.

    Please, please tell me that this life saving, game changing feature is intended to be baseline going forward for all story-mandatory dungeons!

    As a veteran and therefore jaded and abused tank of many years, trusts are the silver bullet to the age old dilemma of the first rule of tanking being "don't be new on other people's time." It's not as hardline a rule in XIV as it is in WoW, but it can't ever really go away so long as tanks are the default leaders of any group. The ability to "not be new" the first time I ever run a dungeon with live players is absolutely a godsend, and I honestly hold XIV above all MMOs for how trusts have been implemented.

    Please tell me they talked about this being "the new normal!"

    Ok technically it's a question not a plea: is this the case?
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    Seeing how you can use Trusts for all of 5.0-storydungeons aswell as the new storydungeon that was added with 5.1, I'd say your chances of them adding Trusts to all story-dungeons going forward are pretty good. Optional dungeons dont have Trusts available though. They are unavailable for trials, however - so if a trial is part of the mainstory (and they usually are) you still have to do that with 7 other people.

    (This might actually be one part of the reason of us only getting one dungeon per patch going forward - on top of other content to replace the "lost dungeon" this one dungeons also needs to have their AI programmed for it)
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    I just wish they had a 100 pot based aoe move condition for more than 3 mobs.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Seeing how you can use Trusts for all of 5.0-storydungeons aswell as the new storydungeon that was added with 5.1, I'd say your chances of them adding Trusts to all story-dungeons going forward are pretty good. Optional dungeons dont have Trusts available though. They are unavailable for trials, however - so if a trial is part of the mainstory (and they usually are) you still have to do that with 7 other people.

    (This might actually be one part of the reason of us only getting one dungeon per patch going forward - on top of other content to replace the "lost dungeon" this one dungeons also needs to have their AI programmed for it)
    I figured that needing trust AI was exactly why the dungeon count has receded, and honestly, I'M TOTALLY OK WITH THAT!

    As for trials, as a tank I find boss fights far less stressful than trash where someone's cracking the whip to GO GO GO, maybe not as much in FFXIV but that's where the jadedness comes in. I've already tanked titania and it was fine. It's the halls of trash and the pressure to go faster that are the real hurtle to tanking for live players. AND TRUSTS FIX THAT YAAY!
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    Seeing how they are only doing 1 dungeon per patch. Its a safe bet they will all be trusts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Seeing how they are only doing 1 dungeon per patch. Its a safe bet they will all be trusts.
    Right, but my main concern is future expansions! Maybe it's the WoW vet in me, but I'm used to "temporary systems," and I'd hate for trusts to be included in that idea!
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    So long as 4m dungeons are required to complete the main story, I don't see Trusts going away anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omedon View Post
    Right, but my main concern is future expansions! Maybe it's the WoW vet in me, but I'm used to "temporary systems," and I'd hate for trusts to be included in that idea!
    FFXIV does have some 'temporary systems' but things like NG+ and Trusts I have a feeling are going to stick around.

    Things like the Eureka systems (elemental level, magia board etc) are more in line with things to expect to go away. Or the Ishgard reconstruction we won't neccisarily get something like it in 6.0.

    They've even continued adding to BLU despite its....mixed reception.

    I think trusts are going to be safe. In fact I would not be shocked if they added story mode trial trusts to the mix in 6.0 too to make the entire msq soloable. Well, going forward anyway.
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