FFXIV Devs: Please STOP punishing normal players for others breaking the rules.

[Deceptus]

In the recent live letter it was said that (regarding Waymarks- translated):

Waymarkers:
Players will have a total of 8 waymarkers
Waymarkers can no longer be placed during combat for PVE
You can save preset locations for waymarkers
Presets can be copied from other players
There are 5 presets available

This has been a response in which certain players were using a 3rd party program to automatically place waymarkers in fights.

So instead of going after the people abusing the system, SE decides that scorched earth is the better response and to completely change the system. This isn't the first time this has happened either.

SE makes desynth easier! Bots abuse the system and get Fieldcraft Demi's really easy. SE's Solution: Time to nerf Demi Materia.

Players were skillfully managing Eos/Selene and healing two players between their pets and their casted heals so SE decided to remove the ability of players to manage the pet casts.

You're punishing 97% of the player base for something maybe 3% does.

Solution I've seen and liked: Make this change only affect Savage and Ultimate since that's supposed to be the "hardest" content.

[DynnDiablos]

That 3% like to ruin it for everyone. They think they are the "elite" and should be catered to so Yoshi is going to just wipe it all out.

[Maero]

That really is a shame. Myself i would have liked to have a few more, so we could not place them ourselves now? That is real silly

[RyuSaarva]

I hope you can still disable them during combat, I really do not wan't to look at those shiny towers all the time.

[AngelCheese77]

This has been a response in which certain players were using a 3rd party program to automatically place waymarkers in fights.

So instead of going after the people abusing the system, SE decides that scorched earth is the better response and to completely change the system. This isn't the first time this has happened either.

Players were skillfully managing Eos/Selene and healing two players between their pets and their casted heals so SE decided to remove the ability of players to manage the pet casts.

You're punishing 97% of the player base for something maybe 3% does.

Yoshi also said they have no way of seeing what is on our computers and I like it that way. The only way SE would be able to find and punish those who were using such programs, is to put some sort of cheat sniffer program with FF14 which we would download and it would scan our pc for it.

Which would you prefer, a program that scans your pc constantly, or living without being able to put down waymarks in combat? I think I can live w/o the waymarkers in combat.

[Kuroka]

I hope you can still disable them during combat, I really do not wan't to look at those shiny towers all the time.

I hope not cause ppl would troll 100%


Also all alternatives would either make the programms scan your pc (which is illegal) or monitor all players 24/7 which wont work either. Even IF they'd lock the client, it would be 100% locked and ppl would loose their precious parsers and all other mods, while some would just switch to full hacked clients, id guess...

[Darkpaw]

What would be your alternative? The scorched earth approach was the only truly viable approach, we got two more waymarks, ability to save presets.

Sure a small percentage of the community caused this and the entire community has to deal with the fallout, but realistically, how frequent is this in the average players day to day gameplay?

Not really that much. Oop cant move markers once combat starts.. yea okay because thats the most common thing in the world.. its not. And if in the hardcore content where this is going to be most prevalent this change means people cant clear any more thats more reflective of the players then the system.

[relhsur]

Nice, that little annoyance of people removing waymarkers right before the pull will become even more annoying. Especially in 24-mans where you've gotta split to avoid a wipe, and pulling early will become an actual problem. Thanks SE. Love you.

How on earth was something this dumb hurting anyone? Honestly, I don't see why they need to do this. They should've just added marker presets officially and kept our ability to change them during the fight. Why not do that? I don't get it at all.

[RyuSaarva]

I hope not cause ppl would troll 100%


Also all alternatives would either make the programms scan your pc (which is illegal) or monitor all players 24/7 which wont work either. Even IF they'd lock the client, it would be 100% locked and ppl would loose their precious parsers and all other mods, while some would just switch to full hacked clients, id guess...

well...then I will just never tank where the marker is and move somewhere else.

[Vahlnir]

This approach seemed like it was a little excessive, but I get it. Honestly, I think that SE shouldn't have left this game so vulnerable to alterations to begin with. We've got bots flying through ARR zones unmounted, going through the ground as to not be seen. Then there's character modding. ACT. I'm sure there's plenty more I could list. Their entire security system is a mess if all of these things are indeed prohibited. They certainly don't act like it with how little they actually do.