Thread: The Patch 5.2 Discussion Thread! (Spoilers)

Originally Posted by RicaRuin

Not all Raen are from Sui no Sato, though. Plenty are from the Hingan Mainland.

On top of that, might you explain why she would have the Echo/Resonant? You don't need it to pilot the Weapons, see Gaius.


Also, I wonder whether Garlemald actually built those weapons or dug them up from Allag or something, like Ultima and Omega. In the case of the latter, it would've been called Ruby Weapon even before, invalidating the theory.

She has the echo/resonant because Yoshida in a recent Japanese interview referenced newtypes. It’s clear the garleans built ruby, they have been working on building weapons since praetorium. The whole point of the echo battle where you control estiniean is to show that the garleans have the capability to build weapons.

Originally Posted by ObsidianFire

As it is, we don't even know if Ruby Weapon can be piloted like a mechanical can. The weird Ultima-like Weapon Estinean fought had someone grafted into it practically...

I agree with most of your post but as for this we do see someone sitting in a cockpit and piloting Ruby as it launches, right at the start of the trailer. It's different armor than the Au Ra girl though, and like you said, it's unlikely Garlemald would trust a non-Garlean to pilot the Weapons in the first place.



Actually their arms look the same, but their chestpieces are totally different. Maybe the Au Ra is part of the Ruby Weapon squad, just not the pilot.

Originally Posted by JeanneOrnitier

I agree with most of your post but as for this we do see someone sitting in a cockpit and piloting Ruby as it launches, right at the start of the trailer. It's different armor than the Au Ra girl though, and like you said, it's unlikely Garlemald would trust a non-Garlean to pilot the Weapons in the first place.



Actually their arms look the same, but their chestpieces are totally different. Maybe the Au Ra is part of the Ruby Weapon squad, just not the pilot.

The chest piece in the cockpit shot of the trailer is just being covered by the overcoat of her uniform in the other scene. It’s literally the raen girl from the trailer. When she goes to pilot ruby she’ll dramatically throw the overcoat off reveling her pilot suit.

Just wondering aswell. In the trailer, Y'shtola mentions that perhaps something could have such an impact thet the memory is pratcically ingrained into an individual. What if that light show we see in the trailer, isn't something thats' going to happen, but rather something that's already happened. What if what we're seeing is a memory of hydalyn being summoned and about to do the sundering.? Back in 1.0 when you start out the opening cutscene shows your character suddenly hearing the voice of Hydalyn. just as this happens your character would look up to the sky and see the exact same lightshow happening.

5.2 trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM3-wh-zUJI 2:36

1.0 cutscenes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU5N24_5VIk 1:00

Could this be the moment of time when our character blessing kicks in? Are they somehow remembering?

Of course these theories has quite a few holes. First off, there's 13 espers and 14 ascians, us supposedly being the 14th, so the numbers don't really match. Also the names of the ascians and Zodiark could be (and most likely are) just a little nod to previous final fantasy games. Ffxiv is no stranger to such easter eggs after all. And the echo blessing could literally be just that, a blessing from the mother crystal. As for the lightshow, it's probabaly just the calamity, whether 1.0's or the ascian's. Still, it's fun think about this stuff XD.

Anyway, I think the mosaic image is indeed depicting Hydalyn, perhaps a more physical form rather than an elemental form as shown in the art in Qitana Ravel.

Originally Posted by ApprenticeSmithy

Anyway, I think the mosaic image is indeed depicting Hydalyn, perhaps a more physical form rather than an elemental form as shown in the art in Qitana Ravel.

My only reluctance with saying it's Hydaelyn (although I do think it resembles her anyway, due to the form the High Seraph bears for her upper body), is that the insect part is a better fit with the lower body of the High Seraph. Still, there's no context to go with it, so I am eager to see when and why it's going to pop up. As for the number of Ascians, because the Esper names and sigils are purely a hat tip to XII, it allows them to keep the 14th's identity secret for now. I am sure the Ascians have elevated someone to this office in the meantime, possibly even a fragment of the WoL's Amaurotine self, although that may come down to how tempering works (i.e. did the WoL's ancient soul summon Hydaelyn, and if so, were they tempered, and would this endure beyond the point of being sundered?) With only 13 Espers but 14 Convocation members, they have free reign to keep the gender, sigil and office a bit vague for now, and map some attributes to your character.