Thread: The Patch 5.2 Discussion Thread! (Spoilers)

Originally Posted by Lauront

TThe clouds coalescing over the Crystarium look like regular dense clouds but at the same time there's light bursting through them, so not sure what to make of it... but maybe the early stages of a resurgent flood?

Those clouds rolling in is the same visual animation used when the Starshower appeared over Eorzea in 1562 after the Battle of Silvertear Skies. The clouds roll in, then burst open into the Starshower. Which implies that it's perhaps being seen OUT-OF-ECHO for the first time in 15 years. And on the First to boot...

In 1.0 it was almost certainly tied into the derailed Presence of Silvertear Lake storyline, but the Final Days is a great opportunity to tie it all together in a clean way that will easily pass for totally-planned-all-along. Ever since the story changed trajectory, the Starshower has awkwardly just been "that thing that appeared in the sky when the Echo sounded and then now people see it in a vision when they're chosen for the Echo". Leaving it at that was fine, but admittedly awkward and anticlimactic. Attaching it to the Final Days tidies things up a bit. Can you see the stitches? Yes. Is it better? Also yes.

This lore / writing team is too good, lol. I half expect them to go back and use the Presence of Silvertear Lake when all of this is over just to bring it all full circle with no loose ends and do a victory dance on the apex of this story for all the trouble it's given them.

Originally Posted by YianKutku

From the Ruby Weapon fight:



Translation: "Loading combat data... Code 'Nael van Darnus'... standby."

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I think Ruby Weapon has the ability to copy and use abilities from other Garleans and powerful entities just like the Ultima Weapon did with the 3 Primals back at the Praetorium.

I wouldn't be surprised if the future Jewelry Weapons also share the copy abilities and recycle them into more fearsome mechanic combos.

Originally Posted by Lauront

I think it's just one, at least based on this when you zoom in more.

Is it just me or does the person in the circle look like a viera wearing a hood? Also seems they're standing in front of a stone sarcophagus?

Originally Posted by AmeliaVerves

Is it just me or does the person in the circle look like a viera wearing a hood? Also seems they're standing in front of a stone sarcophagus?

Yeah, looks like a Viera/Viis. Maybe that mural is not related to Hydaelyn at all - the party seems to be in Rak'tika there, so maybe just a depiction of how the Viis were supposed to be the Keepers of the Ronkan knowledge after the Emperor's death due to their longevity?

Originally Posted by RicaRuin

Yeah, looks like a Viera/Viis. Maybe that mural is not related to Hydaelyn at all - the party seems to be in Rak'tika there, so maybe just a depiction of how the Viis were supposed to be the Keepers of the Ronkan knowledge after the Emperor's death due to their longevity?

Or a Viis with the Echo, since everyone we know who awoke to the Echo sees the Starshower, and that mural is depicting it.

Originally Posted by MrThinker

Or a Viis with the Echo, since everyone we know who awoke to the Echo sees the Starshower, and that mural is depicting it.

Can you tell me more about the Starshower from 1.0? I'm only around since ARR, and I don't recall it ever being mentioned for non-legacy players that their characters saw it. Was it like a global event so that everyone just happened to see it? (On a side note, do we know whether Krile saw it?)

Originally Posted by MrThinker

I think Moose would be able to give a more coherent and factual answer regarding this, but in 1.0 the Starshower appeared over Silvertear Lake when people began to manifest the Echo. This would be passively retconned in 2.0 into a starshower seen in a vision when the Echo awakens in us, and while I'm not sure about Krile, I believe Arenvald early on in the ARR story recounts having a dream of falling stars before he encountered the Scions.

It was also a part of the very first cutscene our characters are in, in 1.0. We see the star shower, and then suddenly are propelled 10 years into the past.

In Limsa, we interacted with Y’shtola and Sthalmann before he became Rostensthal. In Ul’dah we saw Thancred, F’lhaminn, and 12yo Minfilia and watched her dad die. In Gridania, we interact with Papylmo and the original Yda and fought a treant after their crashing airship broke the forest's barrier.