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    Well, that's certainly a lot to unpack!

    But I think the first thing that's going to draw the attention of those who frequent this forum is that they're finally coming back around to The Starshower. I mean, I'm sure it won't be what it was in 1.0, but Shadowbringers opened some convenient doors for making it look relevant / prophetic.

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    The fact that we see Zenos walking through a recollection of the original Calamity makes me wonder if he got tired of waiting for us to come home.

    Considering that he is pretty much an Ascian at this point, hopping between shards isn't really out of the question for him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Well, that's certainly a lot to unpack!

    But I think the first thing that's going to draw the attention of those who frequent this forum is that they're finally coming back around to The Starshower. I mean, I'm sure it won't be what it was in 1.0, but Shadowbringers opened some convenient doors for making it look relevant / prophetic.

    This coupled with Y'shtola's (?) hypothesis that a sufficiently strong memory could continue to impact a soul even eons later makes me think the Starshower Echo users experience when they awaken was definitely a vague recollection of the original Calamity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    This coupled with Y'shtola's (?) hypothesis that a sufficiently strong memory could continue to impact a soul even eons later makes me the Starshower Echo users experience when they awaken was definitely a vague recollection of the original Calamity.
    Especially considering they're in all likelihood surviving fragments of souls from that time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Hearing Hydaelyn also with her Hear think feel while watching that star shower in the trailer makes me wonder if we are finally going to be able to talk to her again after two expansions of Silence.
    It's kind of overdue at this point!
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    So much to unwrap here, so much lore hype activated. Biggest one being that voice at the end, it did NOT sound like Elidibus. And the way it spoke...reminded me of how Hythlodaeus speaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    So much to unwrap here, so much lore hype activated. Biggest one being that voice at the end, it did NOT sound like Elidibus. And the way it spoke...reminded me of how Hythlodaeus speaks.
    Could it not just be a play on how Emet-Selch himself said of Elidibus that he seldom errs?
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Could it not just be a play on how Emet-Selch himself said of Elidibus that he seldom errs?
    I would have assumed that, had the voice sounded like Elidibus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    So much to unwrap here, so much lore hype activated. Biggest one being that voice at the end, it did NOT sound like Elidibus. And the way it spoke...reminded me of how Hythlodaeus speaks.
    People confirmed on Reddit that it is very well Elidibus in the Japanese version.
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    People confirmed on Reddit that it is very well Elidibus in the Japanese version.
    Damn, that idea is out the window then. At least we know for certain now. Makes me wonder what role Elidibus will play here, and why that picture of (I assume Hydaelyn) has insect legs around it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Makes me wonder what role Elidibus will play here, and why that picture of (I assume Hydaelyn) has insect legs around it...
    It reminds me of this old patch art:



    Hydaelyn has always had rather creepy vibes to her, to say nothing of her persistent evasiveness.
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    The trailer started with a remix of my favorite XIV song. Yes, I'm hyped.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Well, that's certainly a lot to unpack!

    But I think the first thing that's going to draw the attention of those who frequent this forum is that they're finally coming back around to The Starshower. I mean, I'm sure it won't be what it was in 1.0, but Shadowbringers opened some convenient doors for making it look relevant / prophetic.
    The moment I saw that very brief Scene I went "OH NO".
    Me and some friends been expecting that if they ever explain Aumarot's calamity they could've used that 1.0 thing back and I can't believe they actually brought it up. Only time will tell what for, though.

    Also, big fan of the Garuda/Ifrit, seems o be a refference to Devilman. A mirror of the main character and the antagonist, I can't say much more without spoilering but do google about it if anyone is curious. I also expected to have 3 of the primals this time saving Shiva for first fight of 5.4 so they could pack more unexpected stuff later on. Kind of similar how the Omega tournament ended by Chaos' encounter.

    Now, to join on the mural discussion. I assume its related to the Cidatel. Weird to see the Scions joining with Cid since he will be taking the front lead of that sidequest. Hope they can pull that off nicely.

    I have no clue of whatever is going on with the weird Ardbert. But my money is still in that it might be Elidibus provoking us.
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