Thread: The Patch 5.2 Discussion Thread! (Spoilers)

I wonder what crafting actions they gonna remove... there is like, not much left anyways? and all the demimateria will be gone as well... my god >_>

Originally Posted by Lauront

Well, they've already done Ultima in the Ivalice raid. I think it is Hydaelyn, but inspired by Ultima in XII's design to some extent.

Well yeah but Ivalice is gonna be relevant again in the relic questline, since it requires completing Return to Ivalice to start it.

You're probably right that it's Hydaelyn though, but it's such a vastly different depiction from usual if it is her.

Originally Posted by Lauront

I thought it was vaguely similar to the art from Qitana Ravel:



Granted, this has a lot more detail.

Calamity from the skies? (It reminds me more of that red thingy in the middle)

Originally Posted by Lauront

The colour scheme and headpiece remind me a bit of...



The insect legs look like an "interpretation" of the wings.

First off, I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought this. XD

Secondly;

Originally Posted by JeanneOrnitier

Well yeah but Ivalice is gonna be relevant again in the relic questline, since it requires completing Return to Ivalice to start it.

You're probably right that it's Hydaelyn though, but it's such a vastly different depiction from usual if it is her.

Originally Posted by Lauront

I thought it was vaguely similar to the art from Qitana Ravel:



Granted, this has a lot more detail.

Just conjecture, but this reminds me of ffxii espers. As we know, the ascians emet-selch, lahabrea, nabriales, etc, share the names of the light scions that are the opposites of zalera, mateus and cuchulainn respectively. Each of the named ascians share this fact, save for Elidibus, who represents Zodiark. The ascians even share the same sigils as the espers, most easily being seen in the Akadaemia Anyder dungeon (these sigils belonging to chaos, exodus and mateus). The last two, Ultima and Zodiark, are the espers of light and dark, them being opposites to each other. In ffxii, Zodiark's power was stunted (kept as a child) and he was sealed away, while Ultima was imprisoned in a giant crystal. In ffxiv, Zodiark was split into 14 shards and sealed in the moon, while Hydalyn basically IS a giant crystal.

My theory goes that Hydalyn can be likened to Ultima, and if our character really was one of the 14 ascian council members, then our character was the opposite of Elidibus, He being the ascian linked to Zodiark, while we were linked to Hydalyn/Ultima. Also, it's been stated by Emet that both Zodiark and Hydalyn are indeed primals. If this is the case, then does that mean that the echo could be likened to a primal 'blessing'? When our character summoned Hydalyn to oppose Zodiark, was our character tempered like the rest of the ascians were when they summoned Zodiark? Throughout A realm reborn's campaign, our character is often stated by the primals to be blessed by another. Ramuh states that our aura betrays us to be a servant of Hydalyn. Does the echo simply stop us from being tempered? Or is the blessing actually a type of tempering?