Thread: The Patch 5.2 Discussion Thread! (Spoilers)

MSQ involving the Job Quest

I really like this little moment in the 5.2 MSQ because it provides a unique experience we never had before being that we can choose how this moment in the game will change based on our character's previous action with completing a Side quest storyline.

Cyella version of the cutscene, in my opinion, is the best and more linked to what happened with Elidubus using Ardbert's body. (Must complete all Role Job Quest to have Cyella option)

Though I went back to repeat the cutscenes to see all other 4 versions of the cutscene involving the NPCs involved with a specific Role Job Quest and notice how each one seem to have a certain hint with these NPCs becoming the new WoL for the First once the Shadowbringer story is finally concluded in 5.3.

Ruby Weapon

I noticed that one of Gaius companion had something on her forehead. I 1st dismissed it as some weird pearl forehead piece, but upon closer examination, it almost looks like a black Garlean 3rd Eye or a black hole. Unless its a weird glitch on my end. Makes me wonder if its due to Garlean experimentation?


Also, on the later 2nd phase of Ruby Weapon, we see a destroyed city. Did Carteneu have a town nearby? It mostly reminded me of Ul'dah. Or could it be Bozja?

Haven't done Eden or the Ruby Weapon yet, just the MSQ. It was quite long and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I do have a couple questions though.

I don't understand the Echo now. I need to go back and re-watch the cutscene of Elidibus explaining it. But it seems, just based on what I heard, that we aren't all that important after all. That anyone can be the WoL if they hear Hydaelyn's voice during a starshower. And that the Echo itself is a memory of the Final Days etched onto the souls of all the mortal races. So, from what I understand, Hydaelyn's message, "Hear...Feel...Think" is playing in a loop constantly and that anyone who hears it is taken by Hydaelyn to be her champion and receive her blessing. In this regard, there is absolutely NOTHING special about the WoL. We are, for all intents and purposes, glamorized (no pun intended) grunts. Made to feel special. When in fact, we are not.

Now, the whole story hasn't been told yet and there's still more to the puzzle. Especially after doing the latest dungeon. We could very well be the defector. It seemed to be implied. If that's the case, then yes, we are someone important to the story. We'll have to see what Y'shtola finds out from the device. If anything.

All in all, I loved this patch. It was engrossing and very engaging. Especially as some of the major reveals started dropping slowly. Shadowbringers has been an amazing experience for me.

So about E8N

Okay so ryne's second form looks exactly like hydaelyn in the murals and she also did the stomp thing, yea we now know what hydaelyn looked like before the sundering, also the fact that ryne couldn't control herself and nearly caused another flood

The "starshower" in 1.0 is canonically debris from Dalamud falling. Just about everyone in Eorzea saw it and the vast majority of them did not end up with the Echo afterwards. It should be noted that everyone that did have an awakened Echo did see the Starshower.

In 2.0, it's very odd. In the opening scene of 2.0, we hear Hydaelyn and swipe at Lahabrea in the Aetherial Sea. Which is long before we even see a starshower. The starshower we do see isn't even real. It happens after we pick up our first crystal of light and happens in the Aetherial Sea where our Crystals of Light are. Which happens after we hear Hydaelyn for the first time.

This is less of a problem for 1.0 legacy characters, who would have already had the Echo at this point anyway. It's a bigger issue for everyone else since the start of 2.0 is when they would have gotten the Echo most likely.

Originally Posted by ObsidianFire

The "starshower" in 1.0 is canonically debris from Dalamud falling. Just about everyone in Eorzea saw it and the vast majority of them did not end up with the Echo afterwards. It should be noted that everyone that did have an awakened Echo did see the Starshower.

In 2.0, it's very odd. In the opening scene of 2.0, we hear Hydaelyn and swipe at Lahabrea in the Aetherial Sea. Which is long before we even see a starshower. The starshower we do see isn't even real. It happens after we pick up our first crystal of light and happens in the Aetherial Sea where our Crystals of Light are. Which happens after we hear Hydaelyn for the first time.

This is less of a problem for 1.0 legacy characters, who would have already had the Echo at this point anyway. It's a bigger issue for everyone else since the start of 2.0 is when they would have gotten the Echo most likely.

Seems like they're trying to hand wave it as "PC is special".