Thread: The Patch 5.2 Discussion Thread! (Spoilers)

Originally Posted by Xie_Belvoule

Did you not watch the 5.2 trailer? They literally show ruby being piloted by a female in red late Allagan gear, it’s clearly the female raen who wears red late allagan gear. Don’t forget Gaius piloted ultima weapon in the praetorium. On its name, I’m saying they will recontextualize the name of ruby weapon in XIV lore to be connected to the pilot who will be from the ruby sea. She clearly will have the echo or be resonant. Yoshida dropped a hint in a jp interview by saying the phrase newtype.

Not all Raen are from Sui no Sato, though. Plenty are from the Hingan Mainland.

On top of that, might you explain why she would have the Echo/Resonant? You don't need it to pilot the Weapons, see Gaius.


Also, I wonder whether Garlemald actually built those weapons or dug them up from Allag or something, like Ultima and Omega. In the case of the latter, it would've been called Ruby Weapon even before, invalidating the theory.

Originally Posted by RicaRuin

Not all Raen are from Sui no Sato, though. Plenty are from the Hingan Mainland.

On top of that, might you explain why she would have the Echo/Resonant? You don't need it to pilot the Weapons, see Gaius.


Also, I wonder whether Garlemald actually built those weapons or dug them up from Allag or something, like Ultima and Omega. In the case of the latter, it would've been called Ruby Weapon even before, invalidating the theory.

She has the echo/resonant because Yoshida in a recent Japanese interview referenced newtypes. It’s clear the garleans built ruby, they have been working on building weapons since praetorium. The whole point of the echo battle where you control estiniean is to show that the garleans have the capability to build weapons.

Originally Posted by ObsidianFire

As it is, we don't even know if Ruby Weapon can be piloted like a mechanical can. The weird Ultima-like Weapon Estinean fought had someone grafted into it practically...

I agree with most of your post but as for this we do see someone sitting in a cockpit and piloting Ruby as it launches, right at the start of the trailer. It's different armor than the Au Ra girl though, and like you said, it's unlikely Garlemald would trust a non-Garlean to pilot the Weapons in the first place.



Actually their arms look the same, but their chestpieces are totally different. Maybe the Au Ra is part of the Ruby Weapon squad, just not the pilot.

Originally Posted by JeanneOrnitier

I agree with most of your post but as for this we do see someone sitting in a cockpit and piloting Ruby as it launches, right at the start of the trailer. It's different armor than the Au Ra girl though, and like you said, it's unlikely Garlemald would trust a non-Garlean to pilot the Weapons in the first place.



Actually their arms look the same, but their chestpieces are totally different. Maybe the Au Ra is part of the Ruby Weapon squad, just not the pilot.

The chest piece in the cockpit shot of the trailer is just being covered by the overcoat of her uniform in the other scene. It’s literally the raen girl from the trailer. When she goes to pilot ruby she’ll dramatically throw the overcoat off reveling her pilot suit.

Originally Posted by ObsidianFire

It's called Ruby Weapon because that is what the same mecha-like being is called in FFVII. The other main WEAPONS in FFVII are Sapphire weapon, Emerald weapon and Ultimate weapon...

The Weapons (or WEAPONs) in VII are:

• Sapphire Weapon (attacks Junon and gets its face blown off by the Sister Ray)
• Ultima(te) Weapon (attacks Mideel and is driven off by the party; later functions as a roaming boss)
• Diamond Weapon (slowly advances toward Midgar and blasts it, only to be destroyed by the Sister Ray in an exchange of volleys)
• Ruby Weapon (superboss under the Corel Desert in NTSC and onward versions)
• Emerald Weapon (superboss on the seafloor in NTSC and onward versions)

Being products of the planet itself, the Weapons in VII are organic beings. (OK, maybe biomechanical.) There are a few more in the Compilation, as well.

• Jade Weapon (summoned by the planet to deal with Zirconade in Before Crisis; attacks the Turks due to them defeating the latter)
• Omega Weapon - this one has a unique function in that instead of simply being an "antibody" to deal with planetary threats, it's intended to be used as an ark for the planet's lifestream in the event of a cataclysmic event that would end all life. (Awoken by Hojo in Dirge of Cerberus in a bid towards godhood)
• Chaos - not technically a Weapon, but a compliment to Omega Weapon. Serves as a Grim Reaper intended to end all life on the planet to prepare it for being absorbed by Omega Weapon. Fused to Vincent Valentine to save his life as per his backstory, it requires a Protomateria to fully control. (Returned to the planet at the end of VII - DoC)

Of these, I would wager Diamond and Emerald have the highest chance of appearing; Sapphire is plot-relevant, but Diamond is as well and Emerald is simply too iconic.

I might actually bother to do Cinder Drift EX, if the GNB weapon is nice enough. (Lack of skins for new class' weapons is disappointing.)

According to Hythlodaeus' (or Emet-Selch's with full context if you prefer) account all of Hydaelyn's summoners sacrificed themselves in summoning her, so rogue Hydaelyn-tempered worshipers seems unlikely.

Apropos of nothing, QA screwed up big time so I serendipitously have tomorrow off. Get to go at it pretty much as soon as it goes live!

Originally Posted by Theodric

It could potentially be Julia and Annia who are doing the piloting. They had a red and blue motif with their overall designs. They also showed up in the Gaius/Estinien solo duty.

Nah, but Xie is right in a way. Compare the Au Ra from the Screenshot to the first seconds of the trailer, it's a much better fit than the armour of Julia/Annia - unless they went and changed, of course.