5.2 Info thread

**SieyaM** · 02-07-2020 05:10 AM

There was a story in this board not too long ago about someone running a parser in Qitana Ravel and forcing a disconnect to be kicked since they were unhappy with the teams performance. That is the kind of behavior that I believe the dev team is trying to avoid, and having a parser at the ready for all players will lead to more of it. At least now there has to be a real effort made on the part of the player to run a parser, and those players are less likely to run it in content where DPS numbers do not need to be at their best.

**Lium** · 02-07-2020 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by Holymoly

I also don't understand how it is seen as providing an unfair advantage rather it helps the individual improve their effectiveness. We live in strange times when self improvement is seen as "cheating".

From what I understand, the unfair advantage has more to do with the PC and console stratification. Are these add-ons also available for the PS4? If add-ons are allowed, that effectively relegates console players to a lower tier, so to speak. PC gamers would be the only ones allowed to raid (in an FC or static) because certain add-ons would be required. And those add-ons would not be available on console. This provides a gameplay benefit that not everyone has access to.

Now, I have no idea if any of that is true. I read that on MassivelyOP. But at face value that sounds like a fair point.

**linay** · 02-07-2020 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by Holymoly

Personally I never thought of parsers I used in other games I played as an harrassment tool, but rather a means by which to assist our guild/FC to improve.

The important part here is it's your guild/FC/static. If everyone is on the same page regarding the use of a parser to improve, then there will be no problem. But if not everyone is on the same page, especially in PUG situations, then don't mention parsing information or risk being reported. (This may also be a problem if a fight breaks out in your guild/FC/static.)

I also don't understand how it is seen as providing an unfair advantage rather it helps the individual improve their effectiveness. We live in strange times when self improvement is seen as "cheating".

The unfair advantage has nothing to do with DPS parser that merely parses readily available information, but with automation tools that "helps" you play the game, like automatically moving waymark placements during battle.

Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

If they really firmly believe parsers are toxic and will never add them, why haven't they taken the firm stance and blocked all third party programs communicating with the client?

Because no one wants to code for something that they don't need to. The current status quo of using third party tool to add parser is good enough. If it causes enough problem, they might do something about it, but they likely prefer to do it case by case and just tell people not to do it and force them to actually spend development effort trying to counteract potential problems.

**AngelCheese77** · 02-07-2020 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by RareItems

Someone said "Sell those Demimateria?" Are they talking about the Clear Demimateria? or the Battle/Field Demimateria too? o.o

Here ya go!: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...c94f045ff9c009

**QT_Melon** · 02-07-2020 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by AngelCheese77

Here ya go!: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...c94f045ff9c009

Okay, so just the Blue - Fieldcraft Materia is affected.

Clear and Battle remain the same - makes sense.

**QT_Melon** · 02-08-2020 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by odintius

I notice he just used an example of one pluggin/trigger their are others not just markers. I'm surprised they just realized this they might want take a look under the hood abit more often. Not against DPS meter but where trigger/plugging are concern they might want to check out that some more. Imo

The plugins he was concerned about were the ones that inject client data to the program. The waymark plugin injected client data. A lot of plugins or triggers are just read data, which is completely different. https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...k_preset_tool/

Take a look a the most upvoted comment that absolutely stated the danger despite said tool is being benign in its use.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...m_medium=web2x

**Kobalos** · 02-08-2020 01:09 AM

Loving the fresh take on the older primals, Zenos is looking hot in his new get up

I can understand their take on lewd mods some from them went a bit far.
But if they banned everyone that everyone that decided
to take lewdie pics of their roe or cat lass 99.9% of the player base would be gone XD

**Sated** · 02-08-2020 04:25 AM

The only thing I've ever been tempted to use a mod for is to wear sets that already exist in the game, and I'd rather see SE make that possible than for me to have to mess around with mods or that community at all.

Anyway... O c e a n F i s h i n g H y p e

**Sathona** · 02-08-2020 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Kobalos

Loving the fresh take on the older primals, Zenos is looking hot in his new get up

I can understand their take on lewd mods some from them went a bit far.
But if they banned everyone that everyone that decided
to take lewdie pics of their roe or cat lass 99.9% of the player base would be gone XD

i think the issue is sending someone else a picture of their character butt naked. They didnt ask for it and none should have done it.
Some people hate mods, they shouldnt have them rubbed at their face. but yeah i agree a ton of ppl use mods as is just to make the game prettier or "fix" costumes.

**Lisama** · 02-08-2020 05:02 PM

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...753.1424545625

I do not understand the sence of that...Who sells that by traders?...

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