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  1. #11
    Player
    Avatar von JunseiKei
    Registriert seit
    Sep 2013
    Ort
    The Mist, Ward 9, Plot 2
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    1.800
    Character
    Xoria Tepes
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Weißmagier Lv 90
    Interesting that SE comes out and takes a clarified stance on third party stuff, as well as started a hard block on at least the marker placement one.
    (4)
    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Zitat Zitat von Odstarva Beitrag anzeigen
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

  2. #12
    Player
    Avatar von DynnDiablos
    Registriert seit
    Mar 2019
    Beiträge
    1.158
    Character
    Shai Rae
    World
    Seraph
    Main Class
    Tänzer Lv 100
    Personally, I don't mind the crackdown on erotic/porn mods as it has gotten way out of hand. No markers in fights is interesting, but I get where they're coming from with people using outside tools. Did anyone feel like the first hour we were being scolded and placed on time out?
    (4)
    "The worst foe lies within the self."

  3. #13
    Player
    Avatar von Berteaux_Braumegain
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    Sep 2017
    Ort
    Ul'dah
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    1.151
    Character
    Berteaux Braumegain
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Rotmagier Lv 90
    Garuda became Pazuzu...
    (0)

  4. #14
    Player
    Avatar von Vahlnir
    Registriert seit
    Dec 2013
    Ort
    Tent In the Middle of Nowhere
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    9.647
    Character
    Elan Centauri
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Revolverklinge Lv 100
    Zitat Zitat von DynnDiablos Beitrag anzeigen
    Did anyone feel like the first hour we were being scolded and placed on time out?
    From what I've read from a few translations? Yeah, basically. I think my only bone to pick with all of that was this bit...

    "If you call out someone for low DPS, the problem isn't even just using a 3rd party tool, its harassment"

    I'm not entirely sure what he means by that, especially since he mentioned parsers right before this, but I know how it sounds to me. Does that mean that we can't call anyone out ever, even constructively? If so that's...kinda bull. I've never used a parser, but we don't need parsers to be able to tell when someone is underperforming. At the end of the day though I am glad that they have finally drawn their line in the sand on the matter of mods and 3rd party tools like parsers.
    (10)
    Geändert von Vahlnir (07.02.20 um 02:02 Uhr)

  5. #15
    Player
    Avatar von Holymoly
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    Aug 2019
    Beiträge
    31
    Character
    General Tullius
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    Zitat Zitat von Vahlnir Beitrag anzeigen
    "If you call out someone for low DPS, the problem isn't even just using a 3rd party tool, its harassment"
    Personally I never thought of parsers I used in other games I played as an harrassment tool, but rather a means by which to assist our guild/FC to improve. I also don't understand how it is seen as providing an unfair advantage rather it helps the individual improve their effectiveness. We live in strange times when self improvement is seen as "cheating".
    (9)

  6. #16
    Player
    Avatar von Liam_Harper
    Registriert seit
    Feb 2018
    Beiträge
    3.470
    Character
    Liam Harper
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Weißmagier Lv 90
    Zitat Zitat von Vahlnir Beitrag anzeigen
    At the end of the day though I am glad that they have finally drawn their line in the sand on the matter of mods and 3rd party tools like parsers.
    Regarding parsers, have they?

    It's still a grey area, so basically they'll turn away and ignore it as long as you don't harass anyone for dps. We all know a lot of PC players use and will continue to use them, which means newer and console players are at a disadvantage. The "toxicity" will exist in that players are silently kicked for low dps and won't know why, instead of called out.

    If they really firmly believe parsers are toxic and will never add them, why haven't they taken the firm stance and blocked all third party programs communicating with the client?
    (7)

  7. #17
    Player
    Avatar von dinnertime
    Registriert seit
    Mar 2015
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    1.300
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    Aurelius Lyon
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Beschwörer Lv 90
    It's basically still the same thing as before with 3rd party programs. They know and they won't care, but if someone does use it for malicious intent or cheating, then the devs will take action.

    They're not going to start witch hunts to suspend absolutely everyone who uses them because that is unreasonable.
    (2)

  8. #18
    Player
    Avatar von Iscah
    Registriert seit
    Nov 2017
    Beiträge
    14.070
    Character
    Aurelie Moonsong
    World
    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Beschwörer Lv 90
    Zitat Zitat von Holymoly Beitrag anzeigen
    Any news on when/how they are going to implement the streamlined MSQ?
    They've previously stated the streamlined ARR MSQ (and thus New Game Plus access to ARR) will be in patch 5.3.



    Zitat Zitat von Vahlnir Beitrag anzeigen
    "If you call out someone for low DPS, the problem isn't even just using a 3rd party tool, its harassment"

    I'm not entirely sure what he means by that, especially since he mentioned parsers right before this, but I know how it sounds to me. Does that mean that we can't call anyone out ever, even constructively?
    I'm pretty sure this is directly addressing the fuss over that livestreamer harassing someone over their poor DPS. At the time people were saying the streamer had been punished for using a parser despite this being unofficially okay in the past, so (they said) it was unfair and inconsistent to target him - when actually the harassment would have been the issue.

    So they're pointing that out (without actually mentioning the event, perhaps) and emphasising that it's a harassment issue and not that parsers themselves are punishable.
    (6)

  9. #19
    Player
    Avatar von Nedkel
    Registriert seit
    Dec 2017
    Beiträge
    2.023
    Character
    Chloe Lehideux
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 74
    No one is able to call out someone on dps, but could we call them they are trolling us without telling anything about dps?
    Hey guys kick him he is trolling our match.
    Will this be bannable?
    The result is the same.
    (1)

  10. #20
    Player
    Avatar von Xeliot
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    Sep 2017
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    53
    Character
    Xel Xlll
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Mönch Lv 100
    A surprising lack of new hairstyles announcement this time around.
    (6)

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