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    Quote Originally Posted by Sathona View Post
    After Arthas or whatever called got banned they seemed to be more aggressive towards Mods and 3rd party tools, to be fair they dont mind if ure using dps meter for the improvement of yourself and your group. But if ure calling out someone else and in a non costrunctive friendly way IT IS harassment and it should be punished. As others stated before ACT helps determine what went wrong in the progression of harder content and people to learn/figure out proper rotations, its an important part of the game, but those that use it to harass will probably get punished and they will deserve it imo. telling someone "hurr durr your dps is trash git gud" isnt constructive nor helpful its toxicity xD
    Probably due to this and the forementioned, not to mention those infamous mods out there as well (not just the normal nude ones) causing some aqward quesions to be asked on them. Likely this is whats prompted such a statement due to various recent drama.

    In terms of ACT and those mods I dont see any major immediate changes happening beyond clear warnings and banning those at their own discretion happening Ive seen some of them and some mods are really nice and wish they could hire these people to help them add them to the game, but obviously the explicit ones are drawing too much attention. On top of that they likely want to discourage toxic behavior as much as possible without outright resorting to excessive measures that either trigger
    1) an unintentional killing of the current endgame due to the current flawed design setup writing them into a corner and
    2) unintentionally causing a "culling of goldshire" moment that unintentionally mass bans a much larger chunk of the community than expected (those bans blizz did and then undid a whole back for mods).
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    With the Excel spreadsheet comment and the one about harassment of low dps it sounds like they are not worried about the dps parser itself but all the plugins that you can get with ACT, such as visual+audio warning cues for mechanics and even automatic marker placement much like WoW's deadly boss mods that makes the fight much easier.
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    All i can say for now is i'm loving Ramuh's look!!
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    There was a story in this board not too long ago about someone running a parser in Qitana Ravel and forcing a disconnect to be kicked since they were unhappy with the teams performance. That is the kind of behavior that I believe the dev team is trying to avoid, and having a parser at the ready for all players will lead to more of it. At least now there has to be a real effort made on the part of the player to run a parser, and those players are less likely to run it in content where DPS numbers do not need to be at their best.
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    Last edited by SieyaM; 02-07-2020 at 05:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holymoly View Post
    Personally I never thought of parsers I used in other games I played as an harrassment tool, but rather a means by which to assist our guild/FC to improve.
    The important part here is it's your guild/FC/static. If everyone is on the same page regarding the use of a parser to improve, then there will be no problem. But if not everyone is on the same page, especially in PUG situations, then don't mention parsing information or risk being reported. (This may also be a problem if a fight breaks out in your guild/FC/static.)

    I also don't understand how it is seen as providing an unfair advantage rather it helps the individual improve their effectiveness. We live in strange times when self improvement is seen as "cheating".
    The unfair advantage has nothing to do with DPS parser that merely parses readily available information, but with automation tools that "helps" you play the game, like automatically moving waymark placements during battle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    If they really firmly believe parsers are toxic and will never add them, why haven't they taken the firm stance and blocked all third party programs communicating with the client?
    Because no one wants to code for something that they don't need to. The current status quo of using third party tool to add parser is good enough. If it causes enough problem, they might do something about it, but they likely prefer to do it case by case and just tell people not to do it and force them to actually spend development effort trying to counteract potential problems.
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    Loving the fresh take on the older primals, Zenos is looking hot in his new get up

    I can understand their take on lewd mods some from them went a bit far.
    But if they banned everyone that everyone that decided
    to take lewdie pics of their roe or cat lass 99.9% of the player base would be gone XD
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    “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobalos View Post
    Loving the fresh take on the older primals, Zenos is looking hot in his new get up

    I can understand their take on lewd mods some from them went a bit far.
    But if they banned everyone that everyone that decided
    to take lewdie pics of their roe or cat lass 99.9% of the player base would be gone XD
    i think the issue is sending someone else a picture of their character butt naked. They didnt ask for it and none should have done it.
    Some people hate mods, they shouldnt have them rubbed at their face. but yeah i agree a ton of ppl use mods as is just to make the game prettier or "fix" costumes.
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    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...753.1424545625

    I do not understand the sence of that...Who sells that by traders?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisama View Post
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...753.1424545625

    I do not understand the sence of that...Who sells that by traders?...
    ...

    RMT Bots.
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