Thread: 5.2 Info thread

Originally Posted by Vahlnir

From what I've read from a few translations? Yeah, basically. I think my only bone to pick with all of that was this bit...

"If you call out someone for low DPS, the problem isn't even just using a 3rd party tool, its harassment"

I'm not entirely sure what he means by that, especially since he mentioned parsers right before this, but I know how it sounds to me. Does that mean that we can't call anyone out ever, even constructively? If so that's...kinda bull. I've never used a parser, but we don't need parsers to be able to tell when someone is underperforming. At the end of the day though I am glad that they have finally drawn their line in the sand on the matter of mods and 3rd party tools like parsers.

People have been getting banned regularly for criticizing other players for anything, if they hadn't said anything before they are just being vocal about it. I think SE and companies nowadays just don't want to deal with the mass report mentality of the past 10 years anymore.

To touch on the topic of lewd pictures, parsers, and waymarkers and the like, this is taken directly from the unoffical translation on the Discord from Miuna#2222 (bolded mine):

Yoshi P -
"2 things I'd like to start with"

Screenshots using mods and he is gonna talk about 3rd party tools being used in the game
"If that's something that doesn't concern you, maybe you wanna swap channels for a bit hehe"
Starting with mods
"There are people using mods to take (lewd) screenshots in the game, people say I haven't been taking a stance on this"
"It isn't allowed"
"Depending on the content you publish, it goes beyond just getting a penalty from SE, in some countries some of the screenshots we see are against the law"
"We want to avoid being asked "What game are these screenshots taken in? Change the data, don't let them do this", so I ask you to please refrain from using mods"
Little earthquake around Tokyo....

Another topic they wanna discuss are 3rd party tools
"Since the player base increased a lot, I feel like I should talk about this because of the different backgrounds players have"
"It is against the ToS to use 3rd party tools, please refrain from using them. There can be consequences like penalties to your account"
"But what about apps like Discord, being in voice chat technically is using a 3rd party tool"
"There isn't really anything "bad" happening to the game if you use these apps, not like you are rewriting data or input anything into the game... so it is hard to draw the line between tools we "accept" and the ones that break the game"
"DPS meters simply add the numbers that are shown in your battle logs... It isn't accessing game files. What if I get asked "So can i use a calculator instead?"... Really?"
"I am an engineer myself, I understand you could just write an Excel macro to read the log file after a fight is done. But I am taking a stance on this, we won't know what you have installed on your PC, but 3rd party tools are against the ToS, grey zone is still grey, I am asking you to not use these 3rd party tools"
"We won't be adding an official parser"
"It will turn everything toxic, we won't implement one. EVER!"
"People might say it's less efficient, but I don't think a game is fun if all it does is push for efficiency"
"If you call out someone for low DPS, the problem isn't even just using a 3rd party tool, its harassment"
"We cannot do anything, if people have a little window on their screen showing ACT. We don't want to "scan" your computer for the software you have installed, that's against the law anyway. There are additional plugins for ACT that influence game play a lot, this is breaking game balance and is target of more severe penalties"
"For example, during the world first race for Alex ultimate, there was a tool used to instantly replace waymarks during the fight, i am sure some of you have seen that"
"That was the first time I learned a tool like that exists"
"Players can replace waymarks on their own during the fight of course, but having a tool place them instantly sending the command to the server through the game is wrong. Please don't do this. We have taken actions on our side to prevent this from happening again, I will show you a bit on the machine later"
"There have been clips going around of a tool showing where an untargeted aoe will hit, if we catch you doing this, this will have a heavy penalty"

"Now to show you the marker things"
"For example so far players placed markers during a fight for mechanics like Divebombs "Where should i goooooo" and someone places a marker"
"Starting in 5.2, you won't be able to place markers during a fight"
"We will have 8 markers"
"You can save markers now, different presets for different contents"
"New markers 3 and 4 have been added, so we have a total of 8"
"You can have up to 5 presets" (per content that is, so 5 presets for e2s shown on stream for example) hm maybe not? might have missed something
"You don't have to place them on your own either, you can "steal" the markers other people have placed and save them into your own preset"
"Ohh yea, there are some players that place markers beautifully, so I can be one of them now hehe"
"We tried to use colors for the markers that are the most easy to distinguish from each other"
"You can still place markers while in battle in PVP"
These presets can't be used during a fight
Only while out of combat

Since I'm bored waiting for Steam to update, I will try to add the bullet points from the unofficial translation on Discord, care of Miuna#2222 (bold emphasis mine). There is alot more spoken about and pictures shown in the Discord, so you might want to head over there and check them out, as copying them here would be wrong. You can find the Discord link https://discordapp.com/invite/ffxiv :

Now on to the new content to come in 5.2

* Cutscenes are a bit longer this time
* New quests, new series of upgradable equipment in 5.25
* New Dungeon: Anamnesis Anyder
* New raid: Eden's Verse
* Ishhard Restoration: these will start in 5.21, which we plan on releasing 3 weeks after 5.2

"5.1 was the introduction of Ishgardian restoration, now the real restoration begins"
"Starting this patch, gatherers will be playing a more important role as well"
Talking about design mistakes with people from other worlds being able to participate on fates on other servers
There will be more steps during the restoration, so there will be more opportunities to take part in a fate
NPC sending NAOKI to diadem - I noticed it was never said if Diadem has to be unlocked first before being able to access it.
"everything peaceful...." "... how was that peaceful"
"So it's an island full of materials for gatherers now"
"You can fly around of course, go wherever you want"
Mobs don't aggro you apparently
"Is it bugged??? Where is the node"
"Anyway, its a "Gathering Wonderland" now"
"Some materials will be specifically needed for the restoration"
"You need to gather those items here in diadem"
"You have a gauge in diadem that will fill up while gathering, to use the content action"
"You can use it to kill mobs, mobs are materials"
So you gather, fill that compressed aether, fire your laser cannon at mobs and gather additional materials
"Drops from mobs differ, so you might want to look for specific mobs"
"I think you need level 17? to enter, this will give exp as well of course"
"You can cloud fish as well"

* Adjustments to crafting actions: "We will adjust crafting actions, some will be removed" (not many)
* Update for the Fisher: There will be a notification? if a fish bites so you won't have to pay close attention to your fishing rod
* Alliance raid quests will be added to new game+
* Free Company rank will be increased to 30 (??): It will give more space in your company chest the higher your rank is
* Cinder Drift: The story for Cinder Drift is tied to the back story of Gaius and it will continue in upcoming 5.X patches

*Job Adjustments now

"It won't be many jobs getting adjustments"
"The biggest change is probably the RDM buff"
"Looking at all casters, RDM has the lowest DPS so we will buff on this aspect"
Potency increases
"And I am really sorry about this"
"We buffed SMN too much so we will be nerfing dot potencies a bit"
Addition to RDM's adjustments: Fleche is buffed, and the dropoff for some spells will be removed, too.
"It was difficult to see SAMs Meditations stacks, so we will be moving the display of the stacks into the job UI"
some PVP adjustments, HG for WAR will be adjusted, MNK will be adjusted, DNC is too strong so it will be nerfed
"We want to take SMN as base for balancing" (for pvp)
"Please wait for the patch notes to see the detailed numbers"

*New beast tribe quest, the Qitari

You need level 70+ for this beat tribe; it is only for gatherers
There will be a split in the story for the beast tribe
It will be about the history of Raktika, there will be a point where you as the player have to choose in which direction you want to go from that point
You won't be able to see the "other path", rewards/exp etc will all be the same

* New mount obtainable through Ishgard Restoration. Wasn't said if you can get it any other way.
* New mount: Umbrella. It's slated as a mount given an action. There are alot of pictures in the Discord, so chek them out.
* New NPC, KUPO of FORTUNE. You will get lottery tickets through participating in the restoration; One of the new emotes, "Eating Bread" will be obtainable though here.

* On to the new fishing content

"We are trying to introduce more content you can easily access during your free time. Content you can do when you are done with your dailies, but still have time left til your static's raid"
"You can get on the ship as a level 1 Fisher"
New NPC at the docks in Limsa
"Every 2 hours real time, the NPC will let you board the ship for 15 minutes"
Access to two fishing grounds from the ship, Costa del Sol and .... yoship forgot the name.... Sea of the dravanian Highlands
Each route will have 3 fishing spots, everyone will be moving from one to the next
If one person on the ship (anyone) meets certain conditions, everyone on the ship has a chance for a big haul
Color of the sea will change
"We put a lot of effort into the cutscenes, one trip takes you around 30 minutes"
15 minutes to enter at the NPCs, when 24 people entered the ship will leave
Once 24 people entered the next ship will be ready to board
You can queue as a party, hold competitions as a FC who the best Fisher is
"If you forgot to buy bait or didn't repair gear, don't worry. You can do that on board"
A UI specifically for this content
"The more fish you catch, the more points you get. More points for HQ, different points for different fish"
"Of course time and weather influence the fish"
"We tested this with 24 people during debugging and everyone turned super serious "you were all hardcore fishers?!?!?""
"Everyone will probably have their favorite spot on the ship"
"It will feel a little different when the ship is packed with other players, but it's a fun experience"
"You can leave any time, but at the end all points will be added and it will show who got the most points on the ship"
"You wouldn't be able to leave a fishing ship like this early in real life, but we had to make it possible in the game of course. There won't be any penalties if you leave early"
"As you just saw, there will be an announcement when the timer is close to running out before the ship moves to the next spot"
"These cutscenes you can't skip"
"We did a few things in that tower... right?"
3 Spots, 7 minutes per spot
Ocean fishing will be updated in future patches as well, new routes for the ships, maybe some happenings? Fishing battles with NPCs etc
"Pirates asking for a fishing battle hehe"
You may also link this content with FC events, Fellowships, and so on. As Miuna noted, Since the groundwork is built for this system, there isn't much happening going on yet, but that will change in the future.
"You can board as a lvl 1 Fisher, maybe people who haven't tried this gatherer yet can start with ocean fishing"

* Lastly, spirit bonding and retaining materia

You won't be converting gear into materia anymore
It will reset the spirit bond value and you keep the item
"Did I forget anything..."
Demimateria will be adjusted
"I don't want to say this too loud... but if you are hording them... please sell"
"also, I wasn't specific, but please just sell the demimateria you have, we are changing the price on those"

* New raid ger; please check out the Discord for all the pictures.

DISCLAIMER: As usual, these are summarized info taken from several summary sites. Credibility not guaranteed so always refer to patch notes for official info.

SO far from what I could understand my list on opinion goes.

1. The new raid is going to be fun
2. Fishing looks great but it made me really depressed I want to be on my own personal ship sailing around fishing and stealing other peoples fish for a pirates life is the life for me.
3. Paladin,range and mch armor he showed looks great THe dragoon gear looks basic and the caster gear looks meha.
4. yay rat ppl tribe
5. I can't wait to play against the ruby weapon
6. Seeing Daddy Ramuha makes me wish I could summon Levithan in any form
7. Please let me kiss daddy Zenos senpai lol (ive loved him and Emat set the second I saw them lol.