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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by AceofRains View Post
    A quick tidbit about Condensed Libra.

    Today it occurred to me that the elemental aspects associated with astral and umbra when using the spell Condensed Libra are not correct. I can’t say if this is intentional or not but I have a reason to rather see it corrected.

    The mistake lies in Ice and Thunder. According to the elemental chart, Ice is astrally aligned while Thunder is Umbrally aligned. This is not the case for Condensed Libra, it is rather the opposite. There is the matter of Thaumaturge’s Astral Fire/Umbral Ice mechanic, but according to the elemental charts as well as Ryne’s transformation into Hydaelyn Shiva, Ice should be Astrally aligned, if not the closest element to Light.

    But why does this matter? It doesn’t matter a whole lot being that CL is a very mild raid DPS skill, but after fully optimizing my spells with and without Instant Death, I found my self having to choose between Alpine Draft or Electrogenesis as a DPS. At the time it didn’t matter to me, but today when I thought about CL I had a bit of an epiphany. With Fire Agnon and Sonic Boom being Astrally Aligned, it would make sense to me to take Alpine Draft to keep the theme of Astral Spells going. But that choice doesn’t matter- because Electrogenesis is also astral.

    It’s a small detail, but i think Condensed Libra should be adjusted for consistency’s sake.
    Umbral is the alignment of Light, not Astral.

    Astral is Darkness and high energy states/entropy: Fire, Thunder and Wind.
    Umbral is Light and low energy states/stasis: Ice, Earth and Water.

    This is consistent throughout the lore, the MSQ (where Urianger explains in Il Mheg that Eorzean understanding of Astral/Umbral was backwards) and all the job skills/spells that reference Astral/Umbral alignment.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 12-16-2020 at 08:38 AM.